> ok. We should probably mention 0.4.2 and possibly 0.4.3. I expect
> 0.4.2 at the beginning in the coming months (probably in July).

Nice, I added your list for 0.4.2 and started one for 0.4.3

>> -Finally, I added "Events & Publications",
>> http://etoileos.com/eventspublications/.
>
> Very nice. You could add the following ones I think (David might have
> other suggestions too):
> - http://www.cs.swan.ac.uk/~csdavec/papers/google.pdf
> - http://www.cs.swan.ac.uk/~csdavec/papers/languagekit.pdf
> - http://www.swan.ac.uk/compsci/research/reports/2008/CSR14-2008.pdf

Nicolas suggested I also  add a page with the embedded video for each
of our talks at the hackathon.

>> My current plans are:
>> - Start to use the sidebar for listing sub-pages in a section, rather
>> than filling the page body with those h2 headers which are also links
>> and verbose descriptions. This will leave more room on the page body
>> for actual content (I started to do this on http://etoileos.com/dev/)
>> Does this sound okay?
>
> I like the sidebar changes you did, but I'm not fully convinced the
> rest of the page is bad. I'm not saying it cannot be improved though.
>
> A relatively detailed map of the developer oriented content seems to
> be the most useful start page for a developer section. I tend to
> dislike most developer portals because you have a bunch of clicks to
> do when you want to access the actual content, or you cannot have a
> quick overview of the whole developer section or you have one but
> without short summaries and some links are then unclear.

I agree, we want to minimize clicks to get to actual content, but also
provide descriptions for links that might not be clear.

> What sort of actual content would be interesting? What me currently
> miss is perhaps Developer News and links to the core API references imo.

For a new user clicking on "Development, ideally we have an
introduction to Etoile's architecture, languages, etc. There is a lot
that's different and interesting that we're doing, so I'd like to show
that off right away.

For existing users/developers, having things in the menu makes it
easier to get directly to interesting pages.  I think we will have
room in the sidebar to list each framework.


> At least, I'd like to keep somewhere the small descriptions which
> explain the purpose of each subsection… may be as tool tips on the
> sidebar links if they are listed here?

That would be good. A lot of the links are self-explanatory in my
opinion (Coding Style, Compiling & Installing, Open Projects).


>> -Redo the /etoile section to mostly be about the "vision", with a bit
>> of a history section and a references section. There will links to
>> different sets of mockups, maybe with one page dedicated to the latest
>> agreed upon UI ideas?
>
> I think Vision should be on a different page and will probably need to
> be splitted on two or three pages.
> imo /etoile should keep a small overview with screenshots of Étoilé in
> its current state. This quick overview could have a very obvious link
> to the Vision page which explains every points of the quick overview
> with plenty of details. Each list entry in the quick overview could
> also be linked to specific parts in the Vision page(s).

Sounds good. I think Vision (or "Goals") could be its own entry in the
top bar, because it's one of the most important parts of the site.

> Aside of that, the Features subsection of /etoile probably needs to be
> reworked a bit.
Agreed.

Nicolas was saying to me on silc, if you're not following a project,
the things you look for first are: 1/ screenshots 2/ goals 3/ current
status 4/ download
which I think is good to keep in mind.

> Thanks again to tackle this Eric :-)

No problem, I think it will be worth the effort :)

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