Hi Quentin, On 7 Dec 2011, at 18:04, Quentin Mathé <[email protected]> wrote:
> Le 5 déc. 2011 à 15:31, Matthew Robbetts a écrit : > >> Hi Eric, thanks for the reply! >> >> On 4 Dec 2011, at 03:20, Eric Wasylishen wrote: >> >>> Hey Matthew, >>> >>>> I'm sorry if this is the wrong list for this - is there a users' list >>>> instead? >>> >>> This list is fine :-) >>> >>>> Anyhow, I'm trying to get Etoile up and running on my Gentoo linux >>>> machine. I followed the build instructions from your website build both >>>> gnustep and Etoile with clang and everything seemed to work okay. (I >>>> would recommend adding a note at the end of: >>>> >>>> http://etoileos.com/downloads/installtrunk/ >>>> >>>> regarding running the setup.sh script to finish the install - I don't >>>> think that is mentioned anywhere and I only found out about it via >>>> google when I didn't know what to do next). >>> >>> Ok, thanks for the info. > > Well, I removed the setup.sh mention from the INSTALL instructions since the > script is currently unsupported. > Ah, ok - are there some instructions on how to do the things the script does, like create the relevant .desktop files and suchlike? Or is how to do that considered 'obvious' for people who are fiddling with experimental desktops? >>>> Now, my first suspect is that I'm using the open-source radeon drivers >>>> (xf86-video-ati) - do any of you know of any incompatibilities bewteen >>>> Etoile and these? I just built gnustep-back with the default options, so >>>> I think it's using the cairo backend. Cairo is something I've installed >>>> through an official gentoo package. I've tried it in both opengl and >>>> non-opengl flavours but the effect is the same. >>> >>>> Does anyone have any idea what might help? I'm not very knowledgeable >>>> about UNIX so I'm not sure how to really start debugging this sort of >>>> thing. I'd be very grateful for any assistance as Etoile looks very >>>> exciting! I love the idea of a polished GNUstep-based desktop system on >>>> Linux. >>> >>> Unfortunately the etoile user stuff (wallpaper, dock, top-of-screen menu, >>> etc.) is mostly unmaintained as far as I know. It never really got beyond a >>> basic WM + app switcher + menu bar, so you may find using WindowMaker + >>> GWorkspace more usable right now (although they could use a lot of polish, >>> too.) >> >> Ahhh, okay. I guess you're all beavering away at the underlying frameworks >> and suchlike. Is producing a desktop system (as opposed to an application >> development system) still a primary aim and is there a timeline/roadmap? If >> I were a more competent programmer I'd love to help out, even if it's just >> with porting some of my favourite OSX apps (TeXShop and Theremin, to name >> two) to GNUstep. Perhaps I'll find the time one day... > > Yes, producing a desktop system is still on the roadmap :-) We should have > some user-visible stuff to present next year. Awesome :) Definitely looking forward to that. > >>> What I would suggest is: >>> - try deleting your ~/GNUstep directory, to clear any extensions enabled by >>> Etoile's setup.sh script, and see if the graphical problem still occurs in >>> GNUstep applications like SystemPreferences, GWorkspace, etc. >>> - try installing GNUstep from subversion. There has been quite a big change >>> to how windows are drawn since the last release, which might fix the >>> problem you are seeing. >> >> Both GNUstep and Etoile were built from trunk with LLVM/Clang 3.0. The >> menubar and AZDock run quite nicely if I start them under WindowMaker on my >> system (though there are definitely stability issues in general with GNUstep >> apps), so I suspect there's some problem with Azalea just now? Or at least >> with my installation of it. >> >> I'll try deleting things out of ~/GNUstep (though I don't want to delete all >> my WindowMaker settings!) > > I would recommend to avoid Azalea for now. It is unsupported and will soon be > removed from Étoilé svn trunk. > > May be we should even move Azalea to branches/Deprecated now. Any objections? What's the plan here? Does Etoile itself not need a custom window manager? Do you have a favourite to use in its place? As I said, I'm using windowmaker-crm, and there don't seem to be any problems. But I have no comprehension of the way these things interoperate... _______________________________________________ Etoile-dev mailing list [email protected] https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/etoile-dev
