Hi! Am 14.04.2007 um 15:19 schrieb Jesse Ross: > Unless you've imagined some better way, the alternative you're > proposing is that when an email/IM comes in, a notification pops up > saying "move this file where you want" -- that could get really > disruptive considering the amount of email some people get... and > some people will just let the notifications stack up anyway, because > that's just how they work.
I admit I didn't have document types in mind which usually have more than 10 new documents a day which are not explicitely created by the user. :-> Do you want to use the project manager / OpenSpace as the primary application to manage you e-mail? I'm a bit concerned about the suitability of a generic application for such a specialized purpose, but I'm really I agree that in this scenario, putting everything in one place automatically can't be avoided. I also agree that tagging is a reasonable and possibly a better solution than hierarchies. (We should think about filter rules for automatic tagging, though.) When I talked about forcing the user to find a place for files, I was also thinking about actions like downloading files using a web browser. The type of action that creates less than five files and is invoked explicitly by the user. Web browsers like Firefox avoid the save dialog by placing everything on the desktop automatically. I think that in cases like these, using drag&drop is a better choice. Please don't forget that a flat directory structure doesn't justify not caring about choosing a "location" for the file. A flat structure with tags is isomorphic to a hierarchical file structure with depth 1 where files can be placed in multiple folders at once (=hard link). (This concept in mind, an untagged file is located in the top level folder / desktop, a tagged file is placed in one or more subfolders / projects.) So just creating untagged files when downloading them using a web browser is again cluttering the desktop. Maybe there will be a need to create untagged (=Desktop) files every now and then, but we shouldn't make it too easy. The reason I dislike cluttered desktops is a problem I observed on myself: Whenever I log in, I discover all the cool things I downloaded when I was logged in the last time. Instead of directly doing what I turned the computer on for, I usually take a look at these files, not doing anything useful. I don't want my computer to encourage me to play. I want to work. I want a clean desktop. PDFs, images and music from the internet? Yes, please. But don't show them to me if I don't explicitly request to see them. This is why - in my opinion - nothing should go untagged by default. Now how do you get users to not storing things without giving a tag? Simply don't allow it to them or at least make it hard to do. I have no definite answer on how this can be achieved yet. We could delete untagged files on a regular basis. This would be the hard-liner approach. Maybe it's enough to place a bold "temporary documents" label on the desktop. Maybe the mouse acceleration should be slowed down when the desktop is in front, so that people work in projects more often. What's your opinion on this? Can you really work with unsorted and untagged files all over your desktop? -Günther _______________________________________________ Etoile-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/etoile-discuss
