I feeling both ways and would not call you an alarmist. The two things I
worry most about are the controller going full on when it burns out ( critis
did this to me twice but dcp has got this covered) and sombody getting
shooked. Has anybody worked on a GFI (ground fault ?) that could be ajusted
. The one's from the store are a little to senitive (dirty bats set them
off) also need somthing to handel 240 v 40 amps (or 20) .  I put a 72v
industrial charger in a car i did and found it used the same power to charge
the 12 6v bats as a bad boy did to charge 20 6v (but I didn't lose any sleep
over that one). after years of bad boys I'm getting a PFC-20  ( and If the
guy who's car I'm converting dosen't like it I'll keep it) . Won't need
isolation when I run it on my solar pannels . What is the point of the power
com grounding to ground anyway ? (first thing we learned at school was to
take the ground pin off plug of scope)
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Roden (Akron OH USA)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: Yet another charger question


> On 7 Oct 2002 at 19:58, Patchem, Eric EM2 wrote:
>
> > Most of the Industrial
> > chargers I have worked on (up to 96 volts) all had some form of
isolation
> > device.
>
> Some EV hobbyists would rather put their money into tire-burning
batteries,
> controllers, and motors than into safely isolated chargers.
>
> There are several people on this list who call me an alarmist, and they
may
> be right.  But I'm concerned that every non-isolated charger installed in
an
> EV increases the risk of a tragic event, like the electrocution of a young
> child.
>
> If that were to happen, apart from the awful nature of the death, it would
> be a significant setback for EVs in general.  It would be one more point
for
> the anti-EV lobby to use in building fear of EVs -- how many of us have
had
> people ask "Don't you get shocked when it rains?".  Such an event could
> easily result in legislation negatively affecting hobbyist EVs, at least
in
> some areas.
>
> For the sake of everyone's safety, including your own: if you elect to use
a
> nonisolated charger, such as a BC-20 or one of Rich's high-power PFC
models,
> please add an isolation transformer.  Or wait until Rich develops an
> isolated model.
>
>
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