EV Digest 6583
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) EVLN(UK Hybrid double-decker bus launched)
by bruce parmenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
2) EVLN(New Honda and Toyota concept hybrids)
by bruce parmenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
3) EVLN(ZAP CEO popsci chat)
by bruce parmenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
4) EVLN(CA L.Gov candidate Alexander: Pro EV Production)
by bruce parmenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
5) Electrolyte specific gravity measurement
by JS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
6) EVLN(Foster City, CA Council to OK nEVs on city streets)
by bruce parmenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
7) EVLN(AU R&D proposal: hybrids, fast-charge batteries, efficient motors)
by bruce parmenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
8) EVLN(Electric cab fleet ocartz.com prowls Orlando streets)-Long
by bruce parmenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
9) EVLN(Consumer subsidy of 33% of India EV cost)
by bruce parmenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
10) Re: charging while driving question
by john fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
11) EVLN(Former car dealer's views on hybrid sales)
by bruce parmenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12) EVLN(Chevy Volt series hybrid, E-Flex Auto Revolution)
by bruce parmenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
13) EVLN(AC Propulsion converts xB into an electric eBox)
by bruce parmenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
14) EVLN(Hawks' Senate Bill 185: "medium-speed electric vehicles")
by bruce parmenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
15) Re: Electrolyte specific gravity measurement
by "Roland Wiench" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/6458601.stm
Hybrid double-decker bus launched
London's first "green" double-decker bus has gone into service to
help cut carbon emissions.
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The bus will operate on route 141]
The hybrid vehicle, which runs on diesel and electricity, will
produce 40% less carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions than regular
buses.
It will operate between Palmers Green and London Bridge on route
141.
Mayor Ken Livingstone called for manufacturers to make hybrid
buses more financially feasible to speed up their introduction
across London.
The hybrid bus is a key part of a range of measures designed to
meet targets for tackling climate change.
Mr Livingstone said: ""This is a world-first for London, marking
our commitment to a cleaner, greener public transport network."
A battery pack powers the wheels of the new hybrid bus through an
electric motor.
Unlike conventional buses, energy generated from braking is
recycled and used to charge the batteries.
A Transport for London (TfL) spokesman said: "We are hoping to
add 40 double-decker hybrid buses to the fleet this year and then
gradually increase that number."
By the time of the 2012 Olympics, TfL aims for every bus
purchased for London - up to 500 per year - to be a hybrid bus.
Single-deck hybrid buses have been operating on London route 360
since March 2006.
Published: 2007/03/16 14:23:02 GMT © BBC MMVII
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Submitted by Staff on March 16, 2007 - 10:33am.
Honda's two seat hybrid sport concept car
Honda and Toyota displayed hybrid concept vehicles at the 77th
Geneva International Motor Show giving us a glimpse of the future
of hybrid automobiles.
Honda is displaying a two-seat concept sports car at the Geneva
Motor Show which is their Small Hybrid Sports Concept car. This
concept car is just that, preliminary ideas. It is a two-door
sports car with front-wheel drive and a 4 cylinder engine. Honda
might be looking to replace the Honda Insight Hybrid car with a
sport car design.
Toyota is also displaying their concept car by showing off a
sneak peek sketch called, Hybrid X concept vehicle. This concept
car has four doors, and four seats. Its design is a sleeker
version of the Prius. The Hybrid X has a roof made up of mostly
of glass. Everyone is speculating at the show that this Hybrid X
may be the replacement design for the Prius in the years to
come.
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http://www.popsci.com/popsci/automotivetech/f2d4d0d45a051110vgnvcm1000004eecbccdrcrd.html
Who Killed the Gas Guzzler?
The leading importer of electric vehicles talks about micro-
cars, a 155mph battery-powered SUV and neon paint jobs
By Gregory Mone | March 2007
Steven Schneider has been selling carseverything from tiny
European imports to boat-like Lincolnsnearly his entire life.
Now, as CEO of ZAP (for Zero Air Pollution) in Santa Rosa,
California, he specializes in the distribution of small,
fuel-efficient automobiles. Its a job, he says, that makes him
feel less like the stereotype car salesman with plaid pants and
a white belt. The countrys largest retailer of electric
vehicles90,000 sold worldwide since 1994, including 300 electric
cars but mostly ATVs and golf-cart-size vehiclesZAP recently
introduced the fastest production electric car in the country, a
three-wheeler called the Xebra that can hit 40 miles per hour. By
the end of next year, ZAP will introduce the Obvio, a pint-size
Brazilian import that will be the nations first commercial car
to run on 100 percent ethanol, followed by a Lotus Engineering
electric SUV that will top 155mph. We spoke with Schneider about
his thriving eco-dealership and his ambitious vision of a green
automobile for every driver in America.
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Q: Why arent electric cars more popular in the U.S.?
A: Those of influence dont promote them. I hate to be so vague,
but were not looking to make any enemies. That said, I
believe that within the next few years, due to public demand,
well start to see more of them.
Q: The Xebra is efficient, but whats the point if the range is
only 40 miles?
A: Its a great little inner-city commuter or country-road
vehicle. Its technically freeway-legal, but its not built
for that. With it, weve introduced electric-drive technology
at an affordable priceunder $10,000.
Q: Whats with the zebra stripes and neon paint job?
A: People want to be noticed. They want to stand out in a crowd.
Its the same for Ferrari or Rolls-Royce drivers.
Q: Whos buying your cars?
A: Families, people who want to make a difference, people who
want to save money, people who want to make money, and
everyone in between. But electric cars also bring a lot of
benefits for fleet applications and city government and
utilities. Our little Xebra truck is the ideal meter-maid
vehicle.
Q: What about those of us who want more than a short-range
cruiser?
A: Weve partnered with Lotus Engineering to introduce an entire
line of green but very advanced vehicles. One is an electric
SUV called the ZAP-X that we expect to sell in the $60,000
range next year [see Burning Rubber, Saving Fossil Fuel,
right]. Its all-aluminum frame allows us to add additional
batteries that give it a 350-mile range, a penny-a-mile
operational cost, 155mph capability, touchscreen controls, and
all-biometric entry and ignition.
Q: Where will we charge up?
A: In the early stages, people will just plug in at work,
restaurants, their homes. Costco and Wal-Mart already have
outlets available. The infrastructure will change so youll
just put a few quarters in a station and start refueling. The
Xebra takes four hours to recharge, but the ZAP-X comes
standard with a new fast-charging lithium battery. Plug it in,
and 10 minutes later youre on your way.
Q: Will it kill your electric bill?
A: No, because it costs about a dollar to refuel the Xebra, and
roughly $3.50 for the ZAP-X.
Q: So from the Xebra to the ZAP-X, is your basic idea to have an
alternative-fuel car for all consumers, except maybe the
Hummer-lovers?
A: Even the Hummer driver.
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http://www.californiachronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=22243
Gasoline: More Pain At The Pumps
Stewart A. Alexander March 16, 2007
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Mr. Stewart A. Alexander was a candidate for Lieutenant Governor
for the State of California during the 2006 California election.
He is registered with the Peace and Freedom Party with over
80,000 registrants statewide and received his partys
endorsement.]
[...]
In the late 80s and early 90s government agencies across the
nation were part of a pilot program for the development and use
of electric vehicles for daily commuters and the program was
enormously successful. Still today you can visit some state and
federal facilities and find these vehicles in use or parked at
charging stations.
Congress should take action to help mass produce electric
vehicles and turn this American dream into a reality; at the same
time Congress can assist the ailing U.S. Automobile Industry.
Over 100 million Americans travel less than 50 miles per day to
and from work and the idea of an electric vehicle would be ideal
for such commuters.
Within a ten year period Congress should invest $200 billion to
help the struggling U.S. Automobile Industry with funding to
design, build, manufacture and market electric vehicles.
This would be a partnership between the U.S. government (the
American people), and the U.S. Automobile Industry (General
Motors, Ford and Chrysler); this would create good paying jobs
while cleaning the environment, and generating hundreds of
billions in U.S. revenues. More than 80 percent of all American
households would have electric vehicles in their garages by
2020.
For this to happen Congress must cut funding for the war and
invest in our economy; Congress must invest in American jobs and
American industry. The technology already exist, the only
road-blocks to less dependency on oil is the politics on Capitol
Hill.
For more information search the Web for Stewart A. Alexander;
California- Automobile Industry Partnership Proposed; Alexander
Wants Electric Cars- Hydrogen SUVs; California Gas Prices Spike
Sharply; Lt. Governor Candidate Proposes Rail Systems; Washington
No Match for Big Oil; Friendly Petroleum Producers Program.
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Hi Lee and group;
I've been thinking of specific gravity measurements while underway.
Perhaps a cell cap could be modified to include 2 tiny platinum (or cadmium)
wires, insulated except near their ends to eliminate electrolyte level
changes.
They could extend to within a couple millimetres of the plates, but always
below the surface level of the electrolyte.
Conductivity between them should indicate state of charge, in a relative
way.
John in Sylmar, CA
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http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=72249
Revving up for electric cars By Dana Yates
Slow down and make way for electric go-carts in Foster City.
Thats the message the Foster City Council will be promoting
after it discusses its interest in promoting neighborhood
Electric Vehicles or NEVs at its Monday night meeting. The
council is expected to approve reducing the speed limit from 40
to 35 mph on parts of Shell Boulevard between East Hillsdale
Boulevard and Bounty Drive and East Hillsdale Boulevards between
Altair Avenue and Edgewater Boulevard to accommodate the new
vehicles, which are required by law to travel on streets with
limits no higher than 35 mph. It would allow the vehicles to
travel to shopping areas like Metro Center.
The Foster City Council wants to set a trend and be one of the
first cities in the state to allow the go-cart style vehicles
throughout the city. However, the council was previously mixed on
whether to reduce the speeds. In January, the council agreed to
promote the use of NEVs by way of television, radio and by
driving the citys only such vehicle more often.
NEVs are essentially zero-emission golf-carts. To be street
legal, the vehicles must be registered, insured and driven by a
licensed driver. They must be equipped with federally-mandated
safety equipment. Their maximum speed is 25 mph and state law
prohibits NEVs from traveling on roads with speed limits more
than 35 mph, according to a city report.
Councilman Rick Wykoff introduced the idea at the councils Dec.
18 meeting. After a lengthy debate, the council voted 4-1, with
Councilwoman Pam Frisella dissenting, to reduce speed limits from
40 mph to 35 mph on Shell, East Hillsdale and Edgewater
boulevards.
The councils support of electric cars poises Foster City as one
of the first cities in the state to enact progressive NEV laws.
The California cities of Lincoln and Rocklin have pilot programs
to implement the use of NEVs. The vehicles are most common in
cities with golf courses as a primary focus of recreation. Police
in Rocklin said their program is still being implemented and the
NEVs are only used adjacent to the nearby golf course, according
to a report issued by Foster City officials last month.
The Foster City Police Department is currently the only known
owner of a NEV in the city. The department received a donated
Ford Think and uses it approximately 10 times a year for public
events such as the Art and Wine Festival and school graduations
in the park, said Police Chief Craig Courtin.
The vehicle was used once to conduct a traffic stop, but that is
not advised, Courtin said. The officer driving it was leaving the
department parking lot when she noticed a traffic violation.
Dana Yates can be reached by e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
by phone: (650) 344-5200 ext. 106. What do you think of this
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http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/yes-size-does-count-in-a-petrolpanicked-market/2007/03/15/1173722655227.html
Yes, size does count in a petrol-panicked market
FOR decades the Australian car industry has specialised in large
six-cylinder cars and has done well.
Years of protection and limited development budgets meant the
cars were generally a little behind in technology, but they
offered good value for money, at least more recently. The price
of the base Commodore, $34,490, has barely moved in 10 years.
The local sixes thrived as there was no direct import threat.
But the game is changing. The value of specialising in
six-cylinder cars has evaporated as domestic buyers have moved to
more economical cars or multi-purpose vehicles such as
four-wheel-drives, so it does seem that the industry needs a new
specialisation if it is to survive.
The Labor Party proposal to encourage development of new,
low-emission drive trains is well timed. Car makers around the
world are wrestling with several solutions to the main issues,
the perceived dwindling of oil supplies and the threat posed by
carbon dioxide and global warming.
Those solutions include hybrids that combine internal-combustion
engines with electric motors, turbo-charged diesels and full
electric cars that can be recharged overnight or by an on-board
fuel cell.
Leadership in one of these areas, or in elements such as
fast-charging batteries or more efficient electric motors, could
well give one or some of the local car makers a more secure
future.
IAN PORTER Copyright © 2007. The Age Company Ltd.
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http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-ocartz1507mar15,0,3492004.story?coll=orl-news-headlines-orange
Electric cabs Mark Schlueb Sentinel Staff Writer March 15, 2007
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Corey Lamb [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] has always been the guy in the
room with the big idea -- so many, in fact, that his mother
grew weary of hearing them all.
"My mother said, 'I'm tired of hearing about all these great
ideas and you not putting them to use,' " he said. "I've had tons
of ideas, but I've never taken that leap of faith."
Two months ago today, Lamb took that leap. People have been
pointing and staring at him ever since.
In January, Lamb started O-Cartz, a small but growing fleet of
electric cabs that prowl the streets of downtown Orlando.
Technically, they are NEVs, or Neighborhood Electric Vehicles.
Picture a "stretch" golf cart.
Downtown workers and nightclubbers are accustomed to seeing taxis
and no longer look twice at the muscle-powered pedicabs that
started a few years back. But a silent golf-cart-like vehicle
with chrome hubcaps and three rows of bucket seats -- well,
that's different.
"It's like I'm a ghost or an alien," Lamb said. "People point or
stare."
For $3 a pop ($5 roundtrip), Lamb will pick you up and take you
where you want to go, as long as it is downtown.
The 29-year-old entrepreneur, who holds a master's degree in
communications and information systems, was walking downtown with
a cousin a few months ago when the idea came to him. His cousin
noticed all the pedicabs -- bicycles pulling passenger trailers
-- competing for foot-weary customers.
"He said, 'If I had a golf cart, I could run those things over,'
" Lamb said.
If he were in a comic strip, a light bulb would have appeared
over Lamb's head.
After a bit of research, Lamb bought two NEVs from Global
Electric Motorcars, a company owned by DaimlerChrysler AG. He has
two more on order.
Powered by six 12-volt batteries, the vehicles have a top speed
of 25 mph and go 30 miles before needing a charge from a standard
electrical outlet. But the carts can legally operate only on
streets with a speed limit of 35 mph or less, so O-Cartz's
territory is restricted to downtown.
The city regulates taxis and is in the middle of enacting
regulations for pedicabs. When Lamb rolled onto the scene, city
officials were just as puzzled as downtown residents.
"When they first contacted us, we weren't sure what the heck they
were. We had to do a little research," said police legal adviser
Natasha Permaul. The city eventually determined the carts --
which have equipment not found on most golf carts, such as
headlights, taillights, seat belts and windshield wipers --
qualify to share the road.
The business operates at midday during the work week, hauling
downtown workers back and forth to lunch. Wednesday through
Saturday, O-Cartz caters to the nighttime crowd, carrying people
to dinner, Magic basketball games and nightclubs as late as 3
a.m.
Things are toughest for any business in its first months, but
Lamb said he is attracting repeat customers and gets referrals
from concierges at downtown hotels.
Most people who climb in his cart want to go someplace that is
too far to walk but not far enough to justify calling a
traditional taxi, Lamb said. Plus, there is the mystique. As much
mystique as you can get at 25 mph, anyway.
"It has a small sense of adventure," Lamb said. "It's fun."
Mark Schlueb can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
407-420-5417.
Copyright © 2007, Orlando Sentinel
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O-cartz hit downtown Orlando Jeff Rubenstein Sentinel Staff
[Video interview with O-cartz owner Corey Lamb]
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http://ocartz.com/index2.html
GET AROUND DOWNTOWN
O-Cartz will provide safe, reliable, and convenient shuttle
service to downtown pedestrians and businesses. This service
ultimately will make downtown Orlando pedestrian friendly
reducing the need for automobile use.
The coverage area of O-Cartz spans Marks Street to the North,
Summerlin Avenue to the East, Division Street to the West and
Anderson Street to the South.
O-Cartz seats six passengers comfortably including the O-Cartz
driver. The carts are confined for abnormal weather conditions,
and O-Cartz drivers are responsible for pick-up and drop-off of
passengers only.
HOURS
Mon-Tues: 11:00am-2:00pm
Wed-Friday: 11:00am-2:00pm & 5:00Pm-3:00am
Saturday: 7:00pm-3:00am
NEED A RIDE? 321-663-0678
COVERAGE AREA
Marks Street to the North
Summerlin Ave to the East
Division Street to the West
Anderson Street to the South
[map http://ocartz.com/map.html ]
O-CARTZ
Can accommodate large groups of six or more for special events.
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to be your own boss and set your own schedule!
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http://www.downtownorlando.com/pdf/01312007.pdf
Downtown Confidential
[...]
Economic Development News
.by Naeem Coleman
You may have noticed some funny looking vehicles riding around
town lately. Well my friends, you have witnessed O-Cartz.
O-Cartz is a shuttle service downtown that gets you through the
city when you do not want to drive your car.
The vehicles are all electric making it an environmental mode of
travel. The cost is $3 per person each way and you can even call
ahead to schedule a time to be picked up! The vehicles can
accommodate up to 6 people and are equipped for our summer
afternoon rain showers.
O-Cartz will pick you up and take you anywhere between Division,
Anderson, Marks, and Summerlin. For more info www.OCartz.com or
321.663.0678
[...]
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http://www.orlandoweekly.com/columns/story.asp?id=11282
1/25/2007 HAPPYTOWN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[...]
O-Cartz a tiny-taxi service a city spokesperson gleefully
declared to be culture opened for business Jan. 15. And
shortly thereafter we started thinking Jets versus Shark(z),
because the pedicab drivers are territorial as all hell.
Apparently, we werent that far off.
Quizzed as to the reaction to his cuddly cartz, O-Cartz owner
Corey Lamb says the pedicabista referred to him as the enemy.
Why cant we all just get along, wondered Lamb. Its free
enterprise. I didnt know that McDonalds thought Burger King was
the enemy.
Lamb (who considers himself very eco-friendly) has a fleet of
just three six-seat electric cars with an eye on expansion
and four drivers. Whereas pedicab drivers typically pay a
$50-per-shift rental fee and reap the rewards of tips from sodden
customers, O-Cartz drivers make an hourly wage, a commission and
tips driving lunchtime weekday crowds and weekend boozehounds
around for $3 a head.
Then again, pedicab hustlers have the hot chick advantage,
wherein they hike up their shorts and Daisy Duketie their shirts
as a means of gaining market advantage, at least for a certain
clientele. Dont deny it; you people know who you are.
Orlando being the vibrant, 24/7 metropolis it isnt is hot
and bothered to slap some regulation on this burgeoning bit of
capitalism. The city is in the first-reading stage of a
regulatory ordinance that will apply to both the O-Cartz and the
pedicabs on issues of pricing and insurance. The rumble, however,
remains unscheduled.
[...]
This weeks report by Jeffrey C. Billman and Billy Manes.
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http://pib.nic.in/release/release.asp?relid=25948
Rajya Sabha VBA/BS
The Ministry of New and Renewable Energy have been providing
subsidy of 33% of the cost of new indigenously developed vehicles
(exclusive of excise duty, sales tax and all other levies) or
Rs.
80,000/- per vehicle for battery operated three wheelers (eight
seater and above), Rs. 75,000/- per vehicle for battery operated
passenger cars (four seater) and Rs. 3.50 lakhs for battery
operated buses / minibuses ( ten seater and above), whichever is
less, to Government organizations, Government undertakings,
Autonomous Institutions, Public / Private Limited Companies,
Registered Voluntary Institutions and Registered Professional
Associations of repute, under the Societies Registration Act,
Hospitals, Educational Institutions, Tourism and Archaeological
Sites etc.
Manufacturers like Mahindra & Mahindra Ltd., Scooters India Ltd.
and REVA Electric Car Co (Pvt.) Limited are manufacturing battery
operated electric vehicles.
This information was given by the Minister of State for Shipping,
Road Transport and Highways, Shri K.H. Muniyappa in a written
reply in the Rajya Sabha today.
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David Roden wrote:
First, fuel cells and hydrogen are a dead end, as has been
repeatedly argued on the EVDL. They are markedly less efficient than
batteries. The main issue is that hydrogen is not a fuel.
we'll just have to agree to disagree here. I am sure you've been over the arguments ad nauseum. Fuel cells off limits
noted. Can't afford 'em anyway so its moot.
...
The list voted several years ago to minimize discussion of fuel cells, but I
don't recall any such limitation on discussing "internal combustion engine
coupled with an electric generator." I'm willing to listen to those who
might wish to have such a limit, and if necessary we could conduct a poll.
Well I need the list to answer electrical questions, not so much ICE questions,
so I can happily go either way.
cheers and happy moderation!
John
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http://www.voiceofsandiego.org/articles/2007/03/17/news/02cushman031707.txt
Mr. Deal: Questions for Stephen Cushman March 17, 2007
[...]
Port Commissioner Stephen Cushman is known as a dealmaker.
[...]
[Q] You're a former car dealer. Do you think buying a car for
its minimal impacts on the environment in an attempt to stem
global warming, which is why many purchase hybrids, will ever/
become as popular as buying a car because it's a muscle car?
[A] I think people are buying hybrid cars, and they're feeling
good about it, and I think there's a big percentage of people
who are buying those cars because they are environmentally
friendly, but I think the majority of people who are buying
them because gas is over $3 a gallon and they're more fuel
efficient. If they're more fuel efficient and you feel good
about it, why wouldn't you do it?
I think Honda and Toyota have done a fabulous job. To me, a
former Honda dealer ... I believe Honda has been smarter because
the Honda Civic and the Honda Accord are real good cars. They
don't look any different. I think that's good ... If we are truly
going to move into the hybrid car arena, I think the cars have to
be mainstream cars ... I don't think people want to stand out, I
think they want a vehicle that's going to give them good fuel
efficiency. ...
Now, because we're not going to have as much global warming, I
don't think any of us understand all that anyway. I think the
governor probably does, and the president probably does and the
Environmental Protection Agency probably does, but I don't
think you and I could really give you a good definition of what
global warming is or means.
[...]
-- Interview by EVAN McLAUGHLIN
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http://www.ecoworld.com/blog/2007/03/16/the-e-flex-auto-revolution/
The E-Flex Auto Revolution
Calling an e-flex vehicle a series hybrid is not accurate,
according to Larry Burns, Vice President of Research and
Development for General Motors, and hes right.
[Photo: General Motors Larry Burns GMs VP R&D and Planning]
In order to see why GMs revolutionary new Chevy Volt
automobile design is different from typical hybrids, the series
designation is helpful, but thats all. Hybrids to-date, by this
reckoning, are parallel hybrids, since the gasoline and the
electric motors are both connected to the drive train. In the
Volt, the gasoline engine only powers an onboard electric
generator, and only a powerful electric motor actually turns the
wheels.
At a breakfast my friend Rob Peterson at General Motors set up
earlier this week with Burns, at GMs Technical Center in Warren,
Michigan, the top R&D VP stressed that GMs E-Flex concept is
broader - it allows the same powertrain to use different types
of energy.
Different types indeed. The Chevy Volt, a brilliant and long,
long overdue automotive innovation, can run on either gasoline or
electricity stored from the power grid. Currently planned to
have a battery pack storing 16 kilowatt-hours and weighing under
400 pounds, the GM Volt will have a range of 40+ miles using
plug-in electricity from home. The car will also be able to
operate independently of the battery, running purely on generator
supplied onboard electricity, getting 50 miles per gallon and
having a range of 600 miles. This is the car weve been waiting
for.
When I asked Burns why someone hadnt made a car that had an
onboard generator and an all-electric drivetrain sooner, he had
some interesting answers. Much automotive R&D is influenced by
government mandates, of course, and in the early 1990s policies
emphasized developing a zero emission vehicle - even though the
Volt in a normal commute cycle would almost never use its onboard
gasoline generator, it didnt qualify as a ZEV. At the same
time, for the coming hybrid cars, policy goals fixated on an 80
mile per gallon mileage standard- the Volt, when running just on
gasoline, only gets about 50 mpg.
[...]
Here is where e-flex technology gets really interesting: General
Motors Volt isnt just a long overdue innovation some might call
a series hybrid. With an all electric drivetrain, it is a
platform that can accept any source of electric power; an onboard
generator running on hydrogen, diesel fuel, or gasoline; a fuel
cell; batteries. No matter what technology is best suited to the
fuel resources of wherever an e-flex vehicle is operated, the
basic design and drivetrain stays the same when the power systems
vary.
Returning to the Volt, what makes the series hybrid version of an
e-flex car extremely exciting is not just the freedom of a
vehicle with a 600 mile range that can operate most of the time
on plug-in electricity - it is the utter simplicity of the
vehicle. As Larry Burns put it, you can see some big components
dropping off the car when you move to an all electric
drivetrain. The most dramatic example of this is the
transmission, which in a conventional hybrid is an amazingly
complex mess of gearboxes. In an all electric vehicle, a
two-speed transmission linking one electric engine to the
drivetrain is all you need. These Volts are going to last
forever.
Along with E-Flex platforms, eventually automobiles will have
in-wheel motors, collision avoidance systems, ultra-safe
interiors, increasingly capable modes of autopilot, and power
sources we can only imagine. As Burns explained these and other
features that constitute the imminent and first-ever new
automotive DNA, his optimism was evident. And optimism is
warranted. Today is the dawn of the automotive industrys
electric age, the biggest revolution since the horsedrawn
carriage gave way to the gas powered car. Right now, today, the
Chevy Volt is the biggest step forward into that age yet seen.
Bring em on.
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AC Propulsion have managed to convert the xB into a fully
electric car by Stroe Sorin
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Well, you won't exactly be able to waltz into a Scion dealership
and pick up this electrifying number, but the folks at AC
Propulsion have managed to convert the xB into a fully electric
car. They call it the "eBox."
AC Propulsion, a California-based company, isn't exactly claiming
to save the environment with this conversion -- you'll still have
to get your electricity from somewhere, and chances are that
power plant pollutes at least a little -- but it certainly is
paving the way to show what is possible. The eBox won't be quite
as fast as the Tesla Roadster either, but it will be able to top
out at 95mph and travel for about 180 miles on a single charge
(which takes about five hours).
The full electric conversion doesn't come cheap. In fact, at
$55,000, it costs about three times how much the Scion xB
($18,000) does. But you do get 635 pounds of lithium ion
batteries.
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Hawks' Senate Bill 185: "medium-speed electric vehicles"
Governor takes a spin in an electric car March 17, 2007
By WALT WILLIAMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chronicle Staff
Writer
HELENA - New vehicles that get at least 35 miles to the gallon on
highways would have their licensing fees waived for two years
under a new provision that Gov. Brian Schweitzer plans to add to
his "clean and green" energy bill.
He made the announcement Friday just before test driving what may
be the cleanest of vehicles -- an electric car.
"Hey, Nance! Whaddya think?" Schweitzer yelled at his wife while
looking over a gray ZENN electric car. "This is my pick for the
day. What other colors do you have?"
ZENN stands for Zero Emission No Noise. The three cars the
governor was looking at were brought to Helena by Ron Gompertz,
owner of Eco Auto in Bozeman.
Gompertz is asking state lawmakers to support a bill by Sen. Bob
Hawks, D-Bozeman, to allow medium-speed electric vehicles to
travel up to 35 mph on city roads.
Such vehicles are currently prohibited by law from traveling more
than 25 mph.
"A moped can go faster" than that, Gompertz said.
The governor took short drives in the vehicles, towing along at
least one reporter and at one point seeing if he could get his
dog, Jag, into the back of one of the cars.
He asked how fast the car could go, and Gompertz explained there
was a device known as -- no kidding -- a "governor" that kept it
from going over 25 mph.
"I actually like that speed limit -- I might buy it for my
daughter," Schweitzer joked, referring to his teenage daughter
Katrina. "I would like to put a governor on the car she is
driving right now."
Electric cars such as those sold at Eco Auto are classified as
"neighbor electric vehicles" under state law, a designation that
was created for golf carts.
Hawks' proposal -- Senate Bill 185 -- would create a new
category, "medium-speed electric vehicles," which would allow
them to travel up to 35 mph on roads, although they still would
not be allowed on roads with speed limits over 45 mph.
Medium-speed electric cars are not meant for cross-country trips,
but rather for driving around town. The problem is that
electric-car owners want to drive faster than 25 mph, so the
dealers hope raising the speed limit will convince more people to
buy one.
Another Bozeman businessman, Steven Titus, president of Free
Drive Inc., was in Helena Friday to drum up support for Hawks'
bill.
Most electric cars are simply plugged into an outlet so their
batteries can charge overnight. However, Titus has designed a
medium-speed electric vehicle that will draw part of its energy
from attached solar panels.
Titus said he recently attended an alternative energy car show in
California where 100 different types of vehicles were on
display.
"From what I heard, people are ready" for electric vehicles, he
said.
Schweitzer's proposal, meanwhile, would promote more traditional
vehicles, albeit ones getting good gas mileage. His proposal
would waive license fees for two years on a new vehicle that gets
35 miles to the gallon or better on highways.
The Honda Civic, Ford Focus FWD, Toyota Camry and Toyota Prius
all fit that definition.
The provision will be part of the governor's "clean and green
energy" bill, which includes tax breaks for clean-coal
technologies, solar and wind power, and biofuels. It will be
sponsored by Sen. Jesse Laslovich, D-Anaconda.
Hawks' bill has cleared the Senate and has been assigned to a
House committee.
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This is call a battery cell cadmium test. It is a cell tester that has a 0
to 3 volts read out. One lead is inserted in one cell just touching the
electrolyte and the other in the next cell.
You should be able to read each cell voltage which will be about between 2.1
to 2.3 volts between two cells. When you read the end cells, insert one
lead in the cell and one on the post next to that cell. Then read the other
end cell to that post. Then you add both of the end voltage together which
should then read between 2.1 to 2.3 volts.
The one I have is made by Cal-Van Tools Company #545 Battery Cell Tester
that I got from a local suto parts store back in 1976. I check on the
source of supply and they still make this model plus others today.
I try inserting the same leads in the same cell and I did not get a reading
or it read 0 volts on this type of meter. There would have to be added
circuitry to make it work like you want.
Roland
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From: "JS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Lee Hart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <ev@listproc.sjsu.edu>
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 1:59 PM
Subject: Electrolyte specific gravity measurement
> Hi Lee and group;
>
> I've been thinking of specific gravity measurements while underway.
>
> Perhaps a cell cap could be modified to include 2 tiny platinum (or
> cadmium)
> wires, insulated except near their ends to eliminate electrolyte level
> changes.
>
> They could extend to within a couple millimetres of the plates, but always
> below the surface level of the electrolyte.
>
> Conductivity between them should indicate state of charge, in a relative
> way.
>
> John in Sylmar, CA
> PV EV
>
>
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