On Dec 23, 2014, at 2:56 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:

> Remember, we are talking about ENERGY, not the cost of the battery.

No, we're discussing the financial sense of the system as an whole.

Give anybody a choice between two systems, each of which keeps the lights on 
whenever you flip the switch, one with a total lifetime cost of $10,000 that 
only has 10% energy efficiency and the other with a total lifetime cost of 
$100,000 and 100% energy efficiency, and basically everybody is going to be all 
over the inefficient system.

Sunlight is the cheapest thing there is anywhere within a billion miles or so. 
What do I care how much of it I waste?

PV capacity is less cheap. I'm probably going to care if I need to put twice as 
many panels on my roof, but it's not something to dismiss out of hand. Any 
more, the panels themselves aren't that significant a percentage of the cost of 
the entire system.

Batteries are expensive. I'm definitely going to care if I have to throw them 
all away and replace them every few years.

b&
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