On Mar 31, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Michael Ross via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:

> So called small wind energy is a money pit with no
> real payback - you need an exceptional location for a small turbine to be
> worth the effort.

Wind and hydro are just diluted forms of solar. On a planetary scale, they 
can't even begin to compete with solar photovoltaics.

However, there are certain microclimates where the landscape concentrates 
either wind or hydro in such a way that either can be a superlative local 
source of energy -- especially if the Sun tends to hide in those same climates.

Both are, ultimately, niche players...but they can be potentially indispensable 
in their relative niches.

Again however...the hydro niches are long since already developed, and the wind 
niches are mostly certain coastal regions and high mountain passes. Another 
interesting potential good use of wind is cropland...a single individual 
turbine won't necessarily have impressive generating capacities, but really big 
numbers of them can be put in in a way that doesn't interfere with growing 
crops and, in so doing, significantly increase the economic productivity of the 
land for the farmers.

Residential wind power makes sense for a few people, but only a very few 
people. (And it really does make all kinds of sense for certain people...just 
not for most.)

Rooftop solar, on the other hand, is economically viable basically everywhere, 
including the Pacific Northwest. It's more profitable in some places than 
others, but it's profitable everywhere (with a few footnotes, of course).

b&
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