Bruce thanks for your opinion but you are wrong. Before EVRUS who scrounged together grants and an affordable 25kw charger there was no way to drive from Sacramento;/San Francisco/NorCAL on the Interstate 5 Freeway. As far as charging time our chargers take 10 minutes longer than the 40kw units....BTW There is an NRG charger that will charge you to 100 percent in Fairfield at the Nissan Dealer. Sweet unit but it cost half a million dollars...our units are under 30k installed. So you can sic the dog on me and not know or have an employee give the real scoop on new level three locations. BTW nobody is getting rich on this. Grants have funded most everything being done. Lately I have been driving the route from San Jose to Castaic. My boss doesn't want me to drive directly to Lebec from Lost Hills so I've been going to Bakersfield Nissan. I think this is a waste of time. The next time I go I'm going to insist on driving directly from Lost Hills to Lebec to see if it can be done for real. I did it the other way with a 38% remaining charge(Nissan Leaf 84 mile version)...but up the Grapevine is a different story. In my opinion the 101 between Salinas and Santa Barbara is the next Chademo area of need. There is already a CCS route on 101. CCS needs a route down the central valley as none exists now. So if you are going from Sacramento to LA you have to go through San Francisco and take the 101 to LA. The 99 has plenty of fast chargers(no CCS) but the 5 is quicker from San Francisco or San Jose. From my searches there is a need for some fast charging on the 5 North of Sacramento to Oregon...but sometimes the market must bear the burden...I'll talk to my boss. Maybe he can find a grant. Lawrence Rhodes....
Send EV mailing list submissions to ev@lists.evdl.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ev-requ...@lists.evdl.org You can reach the person managing the list at ev-ow...@lists.evdl.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of EV digest..." Lawrence, in the two evdl posts you made referencing to evrus: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Re-Chademo-network-from-Sacramento-to-Oceanside-SanDiego-completed-on-I-5-tp4683562.html >shows all our EVRUS Stations< http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EV-R-US-tp4683157.html >We have 10 stations< where you state "our" or "we". Do you own the evrus company, work for them, and or are vested in them? If so, you may want to have a chat with our evdl sys-admin, else his Maxwell's-hammer may come down on you for self-promotion/advertising on the evdl. According to the evrus.net website, their L3 EVSE is fed from a 3 phase 208VAC 25kW source, these are ~20kW (half-powered) L3 EVSE that will take about twice as long as the typical public L3 50kW EVSE. Their website states a Leaf EV can charge from 10% SOC to 80% in a half hour. Lawrence had posted that the company's L3 EVSE can charge CHAdeMO, and Tesla (with an adapter) EVs (meaning it is CHAdeMO), but their website sez they can offer ccs/combo http://www.evrus.net/products.html CCS and CHAdeMO protocol compatibility Lawrence's post Chademo network from Sacramento to Oceanside/SanDiego completed.on I-5 could leave a non-CA local to think there was some issue here. Bring up plugshare, and clicking on the CHAdeMO link at the bottom, and mouse dragging & enlarging their map, I see there are many, many L3 CHAdeMO EVSE, with quite a few on Hwy 5 (one of the major north<>south Hwy's traversing CA). If I enter evrus in plugshare's search box, nothing comes up. The work-around I have found is to use an outside search engine https://www.google.com/search?q=plugshare+evrus.net to peek& poke to find listings, or to (painfully) search manually. Lawrence refered to some cities in one of his posts, so I manually found: https://api.plugshare.com/view/location/91710 Holiday Inn Oceanside Ports CHAdeMO DCFC Address 1401 Carmelo Drive, Oceanside, CA 92054 Phone (877) 676-6266 Cost 0.59 per kWH plus $2.95 service fee Description Download the app from www.evrus.net. Or you can pick up a prepaid card from the hotel lobby. App has some neat features and is more convenient in the long run. A 10% to 80% L3 20+kW charge would be 70% of the 21kW an ~80mi Leaf uses of its 24kW pack. So a L3 charge on their EVSE would cost: (21 * .59) +2.95= $15.34 to regain (.7 * 80= ) 56mi. On another plugshare listing, I think I found an uploaded image of Lawrence with their EVSE, see below: https://api.plugshare.com/view/location/14295 Castaic Lake RV Park Ports Wall Outlet (120v), CHAdeMO DCFC, Nema 14-50 Address 31540 Ridge Route Rd., Castaic, CA 91384 Phone (661) 257-3340 Cost DCQC: 0.59 per kWH plus $2.95 service fee Hours 8am-5pm Description Friendly office staff. 50 amp service (NEMA 14-50) and NEMA 10-30 outlets, as well as a standard wall outlet. This DC fast charger is located on the left side of the RV park. The easiest way to pay is by purchasing a prepaid card from the RV Park office front desk. You can also use the smartphone app downloaded from evrus.net (android only, iOS coming soon) or pay directly on the website then call the toll free number (877-676-6266). Check-in: Lawrence Aug 18, 2016 9:16 AM [images https://13dd3533ebd96a38e097-ffd458871468d7801be60d93d5d79b26.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/149281.jpg (Lawrence? & EVSE) https://13dd3533ebd96a38e097-ffd458871468d7801be60d93d5d79b26.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/143906.jpg ] After reading several of their plugshare listings, it looks like for the driver to have access to their L3 EVSE, they either buy a prepaid rfid card from the host, or use their Android smartphone app, or pay directly on the website & then call 1-877-676-6266 to enable/turn-on that EVSE. L3 EVSE should be location within ~50miles of each other. A manual distance check found a few are a long hike: https://goo.gl/maps/Th8PsGGCAvP2 76mi distance https://goo.gl/maps/g18GB1EriWE2 74mi distance https://goo.gl/maps/zSQiSiPeSRJ2 69mi distance IMO, the bottom line for me is the 'real' need for public L3 EVSE in CA is between Sacramento and the Oregon border, see: https://goo.gl/maps/KVU8xLGmuDU2 A huge 284mi L3 EVSE gap between Sacramento and the OR-WA Electric-Highway any other public L3 installation in CA is moot until this is achieved. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20160902/c3b2bbbd/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)