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> On Mar 10, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Peri Hartman via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
> 
> I simply think it shows that EVs aren't ready for mainstream yet. At least 
> not as the only car available for all purposes. Close, yes. More range might 
> help but probaby the key factor is faster charging.
> 
> Peri
> 
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "brucedp5 via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org>
> To: ev@lists.evdl.org
> Cc:
> Sent: 10-Mar-17 1:07:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] 800mi Bolt trip ... (San Jose<>LA on ccs)
> 
>> 
>> 
>> [ref
>> http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-800mi-Bolt-trip-w-EV-ignorant-Mom-amp-teen-angst-gt-20kW-ccs-EVSE-frustrated-td4686115.html
>> EVLN: 800mi Bolt trip w/ EV-ignorant Mom& teen-angst> ~20kW ccs EVSE
>> frustrated
>> ]
>> 
>> I do not consider that an EV horror story. But a story of how to take an
>> ill-prepared trip (of course they would have problems).
>> 
>> I drove my EV on several long trips way, way back when public EVSE was just
>> a glimmer in every EV'rs eye. After reading the mother's story, this
>> EV-advocate old-timer had several things I would have done differently.
>> 
>> I would have done my road-trip homework ahead of time. Chargepoint (using
>> either their app or their web page) is a lousy tool to know what public EVSE
>> is available when compared to the free-to-use
>> https://www.plugshare.com
>> 
>> I set plugshare to only show ccs level-3 (L3) and j1772 L2. After adjusting
>> the map to show San Jose, CA at the top, it showed, highway 99 & highway 101
>> had ccs L3 charging to get to Pasadena, CA (the LA area).
>> 
>> Since the amount of time charging was a complaint the mother had, I would
>> have chosen the route that has as many full powered (50kW) L3 EVSE as
>> possible. Looking at the L3 on Hwy 101, some were only half powered (24kW).
>> But the L3 on Hwy 99 were full power. I would want most of the trip to be on
>> Hwy 99.
>> 
>> The EVSE were EVgo and plugshare showed that. The mother could have gotten
>> an EVgo account before the trip. Clearly, she depended on Chargepoint to
>> solve all her charging needs too heavily.
>> 
>> I used google maps
>> https://goo.gl/maps/se1HF6CZeEE2
>> to plan a route from San Jose east to Hwy 99, then south to a L3 EVSE in
>> Visalia. Using the details on that map shows that Visalia is at the ~200
>> mile point. And Pasadena is another 200 miles. Meaning only one L3 charging
>> would be needed to make the entire 400 mile trip, and only one L3 charge
>> would be needed on the return trip.
>> 
>> My mostly Hwy 99 route goes south from San Jose, cuts over east on Hwy 152
>> to Hwy 99 going south. Hwy 99 merges with Hwy 5 at Bakersfield. Hwy 5 will
>> take the Mom& teen south to Pasadena.
>> 
>> My route has the most full-power L3 charging to keep range angst to a
>> minimum, and lets the couple only need one L3 quick charging stop.
>> 
>> 
>> My complaint with this story is that the story was worded to leave the
>> EV-ignorant feeling EVs are not-ready for prime time.
>> If I drove a Bolt EV on that trip, my prep would have made for an easier
>> time, with far fewer complaints
>> (because when it comes to EVs on long trips, I know what I am doing).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> {brucedp.neocities.org}
>> 
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