Ok, so go back to what I said earlier: Maybe.
The reputable source said five, not four. And as I said, they may have been (and likely were) other things going on. - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Aug 19, 2019, at 10:41 AM, paul dove <dov...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > You are missing what I said. Four states were in the running and California > threw their own hat in the plate offering reduction of environmental laws in > order to be considered. Elon said slim chance. > > > On Monday, August 19, 2019, 12:36:39 PM CDT, Mark Abramowitz > <ma...@enviropolicy.com> wrote: > > > Those four states plus California make the five that the spokesperson > referred to. If not California, what’s the fifth state? > > Even your quote of Musk of Musk shows California as competing. > > What am I missing? > > - Mark > > Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > >> On Aug 19, 2019, at 10:29 AM, paul dove <dov...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> >> That does not say California. >> >> The Brown administration is hustling to compete with four other states — >> Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas — for what Tesla Chief Executive Elon >> Musk calls his “gigafactory.” Musk has described California as a “long shot” >> for snagging the proposed plant. >> >> On Monday, August 19, 2019, 10:51:03 AM CDT, Mark Abramowitz >> <ma...@enviropolicy.com> wrote: >> >> >> Yes, it does say that. Perhaps they were preparing it for something else no >> matter the location of the Gigafactory, because the Tesla spokesperson >> indicated that it still hadn’t been decided, and was between five states. >> >> ““Timing for the gigafactory is very important,” Tesla spokesman Simon >> Sproule said Monday. “So all five states in the running for the gigafactory >> need to demonstrate, among other factors, that they can help us deliver the >> factory on time.”” >> >> - Mark >> >> Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone >> >>> On Aug 19, 2019, at 8:40 AM, paul dove <dov...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >>> >>> The LA Times article linked on that site says nothing but hopes from the >>> Governor about Tesla locating in California. It actually says they are >>> already preparing a site in Reno. >>> >>> >>> On Monday, August 19, 2019, 10:10:29 AM CDT, Mark Abramowitz >>> <ma...@enviropolicy.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Maybe. >>> >>> According to the L.A. Times article cited in that article, there were five >>> finalists, including California. >>> >>> The rest of the article also seems to confirm my statement. It was likely >>> the L.A. Times article that was the basis for my opinion. >>> >>> But while I don’t consider your source to be always accurate, it is >>> possible that there was more going on, and that you are correct. >>> >>> But for now, I’ll stick with the L.A. Times version of the events. >>> >>> >>> >>> - Mark >>> >>> Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone >>> >>>> On Aug 19, 2019, at 4:48 AM, paul dove <dov...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >>>> >>> >>> I believe you got it backwards. >>> >>> California was never on the list so they were going to lower environmental >>> rules to lure Tesla back. >>> https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1093814_tesla-gigafactory-ca-could-waive-environmental-rules-to-get-it-report >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Aug 18, 2019, at 11:47 PM, Mark Abramowitz via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> The reason they ship it is because either they planned poorly with not >>>> enough time for environmental review in California, or they didn’t want to >>>> fully disclose the environmental impacts of the plant. >>>> >>>> Either way, when they tried and failed to get the legislature to exempt >>>> them from environmental review in California, they built the plant in >>>> neighboring Nevada. >>>> >>>> - Mark >>>> >>>> Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Aug 18, 2019, at 7:34 PM, Tom Hudson via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 8/18/2019 8:45 AM, Michael Ross via EV wrote: >>>>>> I see the naming slipping - Gigafactory in Nevada means a battery plant. >>>>>> In >>>>>> Shanghai it is an automobile manufacturing facility. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> The name is NOT "slipping". Like the main Gigafactory in Nevada, >>>>> Gigafactory 3 in China will produce battery cells/modules and other >>>>> items; it just adds cars to that list. Presumably, like Gigafactory 1, >>>>> it will build batteries and motors, and will have the added benefit of >>>>> being the assembly location for the Model 3, unlike Gigafactory 1 in >>>>> Nevada, which has to ship those components to California for final >>>>> assembly. I always thought this was an unfortunate situation, having to >>>>> ship those critical components hundreds of miles to Fremont. There has >>>>> always been talk about doing actual vehicle assembly at Gigafactory 1 at >>>>> some point -- would sure make sense to do that, to simplify the >>>>> manufacturing logistics, as long as you had the manpower available -- and >>>>> they keep enlarging the thing, so I'd expect to see vehicle assembly >>>>> there at some point. >>>>> >>>>> For the China factory, Tesla will circumvent any tariffs and provide a >>>>> product that is more appealing to the Chinese car-buying public than a >>>>> foreign-made vehicle. Should be interesting to see what happens there, >>>>> but it looks like they're on track for their goal of starting production >>>>> later this year. >>>>> >>>>> -Tom >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Thomas Hudson >>>>> http://portev.org -- Electric Vehicles, Solar Power & More >>>>> http://klanky.com -- Animation Projects >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >>>>> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >>>>> Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA >>>>> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >>>> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >>>> Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA >>>> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >>>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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