You are missing what I said. Four states were in the running and California
threw their own hat in the plate offering reduction of environmental laws in
order to be considered. Elon said slim chance.
On Monday, August 19, 2019, 12:36:39 PM CDT, Mark Abramowitz
<ma...@enviropolicy.com> wrote:
Those four states plus California make the five that the spokesperson referred
to. If not California, what’s the fifth state?
Even your quote of Musk of Musk shows California as competing.
What am I missing?
- Mark
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On Aug 19, 2019, at 10:29 AM, paul dove <dov...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
That does not say California.
The Brown administration is hustling to compete with four other states —
Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas — for what Tesla Chief Executive Elon
Musk calls his “gigafactory.” Musk has described California as a “long shot”
for snagging the proposed plant.
On Monday, August 19, 2019, 10:51:03 AM CDT, Mark Abramowitz
<ma...@enviropolicy.com> wrote:
Yes, it does say that. Perhaps they were preparing it for something else no
matter the location of the Gigafactory, because the Tesla spokesperson
indicated that it still hadn’t been decided, and was between five states.
““Timing for the gigafactory is very important,” Tesla spokesman Simon Sproule
said Monday. “So all five states in the running for the gigafactory need to
demonstrate, among other factors, that they can help us deliver the factory on
time.””
- Mark
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On Aug 19, 2019, at 8:40 AM, paul dove <dov...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
The LA Times article linked on that site says nothing but hopes from the
Governor about Tesla locating in California. It actually says they are already
preparing a site in Reno.
On Monday, August 19, 2019, 10:10:29 AM CDT, Mark Abramowitz
<ma...@enviropolicy.com> wrote:
Maybe.
According to the L.A. Times article cited in that article, there were five
finalists, including California.
The rest of the article also seems to confirm my statement. It was likely the
L.A. Times article that was the basis for my opinion.
But while I don’t consider your source to be always accurate, it is possible
that there was more going on, and that you are correct.
But for now, I’ll stick with the L.A. Times version of the events.
- Mark
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On Aug 19, 2019, at 4:48 AM, paul dove <dov...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
I believe you got it backwards.
California was never on the list so they were going to lower environmental
rules to lure Tesla
back.https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1093814_tesla-gigafactory-ca-could-waive-environmental-rules-to-get-it-report
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On Aug 18, 2019, at 11:47 PM, Mark Abramowitz via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
The reason they ship it is because either they planned poorly with not enough
time for environmental review in California, or they didn’t want to fully
disclose the environmental impacts of the plant.
Either way, when they tried and failed to get the legislature to exempt them
from environmental review in California, they built the plant in neighboring
Nevada.
- Mark
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On Aug 18, 2019, at 7:34 PM, Tom Hudson via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
On 8/18/2019 8:45 AM, Michael Ross via EV wrote:
I see the naming slipping - Gigafactory in Nevada means a battery plant. In
Shanghai it is an automobile manufacturing facility.
The name is NOT "slipping". Like the main Gigafactory in Nevada, Gigafactory 3
in China will produce battery cells/modules and other items; it just adds cars
to that list. Presumably, like Gigafactory 1, it will build batteries and
motors, and will have the added benefit of being the assembly location for the
Model 3, unlike Gigafactory 1 in Nevada, which has to ship those components to
California for final assembly. I always thought this was an unfortunate
situation, having to ship those critical components hundreds of miles to
Fremont. There has always been talk about doing actual vehicle assembly at
Gigafactory 1 at some point -- would sure make sense to do that, to simplify
the manufacturing logistics, as long as you had the manpower available -- and
they keep enlarging the thing, so I'd expect to see vehicle assembly there at
some point.
For the China factory, Tesla will circumvent any tariffs and provide a product
that is more appealing to the Chinese car-buying public than a foreign-made
vehicle. Should be interesting to see what happens there, but it looks like
they're on track for their goal of starting production later this year.
-Tom
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