Those four states plus California make the five that the spokesperson referred 
to. If not California, what’s the fifth state?

Even your quote of Musk of Musk shows California as competing.

What am I missing?

- Mark

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> On Aug 19, 2019, at 10:29 AM, paul dove <dov...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> 
> That does not say California. 
> 
> The Brown administration is hustling to compete with four other states — 
> Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas — for what Tesla Chief Executive Elon 
> Musk calls his “gigafactory.” Musk has described California as a “long shot” 
> for snagging the proposed plant.
> 
> On Monday, August 19, 2019, 10:51:03 AM CDT, Mark Abramowitz 
> <ma...@enviropolicy.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes, it does say that. Perhaps they were preparing it for something else no 
> matter the location of the Gigafactory, because the Tesla spokesperson 
> indicated that it still hadn’t been decided, and was between five states.
> 
> ““Timing for the gigafactory is very important,” Tesla spokesman Simon 
> Sproule said Monday. “So all five states in the running for the gigafactory 
> need to demonstrate, among other factors, that they can help us deliver the 
> factory on time.””
> 
> - Mark
> 
> Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 19, 2019, at 8:40 AM, paul dove <dov...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> 
>> The LA Times article linked on that site says nothing but hopes from the 
>> Governor about Tesla locating in California. It actually says they are 
>> already preparing a site in Reno.
>> 
>> 
>> On Monday, August 19, 2019, 10:10:29 AM CDT, Mark Abramowitz 
>> <ma...@enviropolicy.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Maybe.
>> 
>> According to the L.A. Times article cited in that article, there were five 
>> finalists, including California.
>> 
>> The rest of the article also seems to confirm my statement. It was likely 
>> the L.A. Times article that was the basis for my opinion.
>> 
>> But while I don’t consider your source to be always accurate, it is possible 
>> that there was more going on, and that you are correct.
>> 
>> But for now, I’ll stick with the L.A. Times version of the events.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Mark
>> 
>> Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 19, 2019, at 4:48 AM, paul dove <dov...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> I believe you got it backwards.
>> 
>> California was never on the list so they were going to lower environmental 
>> rules to lure Tesla back.
>> https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1093814_tesla-gigafactory-ca-could-waive-environmental-rules-to-get-it-report
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 18, 2019, at 11:47 PM, Mark Abramowitz via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The reason they ship it is because either they planned poorly with not 
>>> enough time for environmental review in California, or they didn’t want to 
>>> fully disclose the environmental impacts of the plant.
>>> 
>>> Either way, when they tried and failed to get the legislature to exempt 
>>> them from environmental review in California, they built the plant in 
>>> neighboring Nevada. 
>>> 
>>> - Mark
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 18, 2019, at 7:34 PM, Tom Hudson via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 8/18/2019 8:45 AM, Michael Ross via EV wrote:
>>>>> I see the naming slipping - Gigafactory in Nevada means a battery plant. 
>>>>> In
>>>>> Shanghai it is an automobile manufacturing facility.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> The name is NOT "slipping".  Like the main Gigafactory in Nevada, 
>>>> Gigafactory 3 in China will produce battery cells/modules and other items; 
>>>> it just adds cars to that list.  Presumably, like Gigafactory 1, it will 
>>>> build batteries and motors, and will have the added benefit of being the 
>>>> assembly location for the Model 3, unlike Gigafactory 1 in Nevada, which 
>>>> has to ship those components to California for final assembly. I always 
>>>> thought this was an unfortunate situation, having to ship those critical 
>>>> components hundreds of miles to Fremont. There has always been talk about 
>>>> doing actual vehicle assembly at Gigafactory 1 at some point -- would sure 
>>>> make sense to do that, to simplify the manufacturing logistics, as long as 
>>>> you had the manpower available -- and they keep enlarging the thing, so 
>>>> I'd expect to see vehicle assembly there at some point.
>>>> 
>>>> For the China factory, Tesla will circumvent any tariffs and provide a 
>>>> product that is more appealing to the Chinese car-buying public than a 
>>>> foreign-made vehicle. Should be interesting to see what happens there, but 
>>>> it looks like they're on track for their goal of starting production later 
>>>> this year.
>>>> 
>>>> -Tom
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Thomas Hudson
>>>> http://portev.org -- Electric Vehicles, Solar Power & More
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