If this is correct then it’s a good example of how Tesla is so far ahead. 93kwh / 200 miles = 465 Wh/m. My model S guts 350 Wh/m and the model 3 gets 250 Wh/m.
Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 15, 2020, at 11:37 PM, evln via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > > > % Below is the text from motorweek's review of the > Taycan Turbo S EV and one ota TV listing for the SF-CA PBS > station. Other PBS stations might also be broadcasting the > show, explore > https://www.google.com/search?q=motorweek+Episode+3924 > > > IMO, the review shows motorweek is including more EVs, but > they are still not-EV-drivers ... > Porsche is not the only automaker going 800V packs (see > links below). Actually they 800V systems were touted at > EVS.org/edta/electricdrive.org shows way back in the 2000's. > But now that 300+mi range is where the range bar has been > set, higher pack voltages allow for faster charging of high > kWh packs. > > -MW wasted time talking about Mission E, and mpge values, > when they should have otten dow to the nitty gritty of range > between models. The cheaper 4s has the most range. > > -MW supported Porsche's use of Turbo naming as their norm, > even though the EV has no turbo-mech, see > https://www.google.com/search?q=taycan+turbo+musk > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-130k-Porsche-s-turbo-less-Taycan-Turbo-performance-EV-tp4692356.html > > -MW showed way too many shots of the EV's active rear spoiler > when really it is useless as it only raises up 2 inches. The EV's > price could have been lower just by making the rear design in > the up position with out the silly motorized control. And an > added amplified interor e-motor sound is also dumb. > > -MW didn't grasp the regen/freewheeling EVs use as they > disparagingly said: 'off the throttle it still wants to surge > on' = MW is still EV clueless. See below ... % > > > https://www.motorweek.org/reviews/road_tests/2020-porsche-taycan-turbo-s/ > Road Tests Episode 3924 > > [images > https://www.motorweek.org/images/made/images/road_tests/2020_porsche_taycan_turbo_S_1_638_359_80.jpg > > https://www.motorweek.org/images/road_tests/2020_porsche_taycan_turbo_S_3.jpg > > https://www.motorweek.org/images/road_tests/2020_porsche_taycan_turbo_S_4.jpg > > https://www.motorweek.org/images/road_tests/2020_porsche_taycan_turbo_S_2.jpg > ] > > Being the proud performance-oriented brand that they are, Porsche could only > sit back and watch tesla parade around at ludicrous speed for so long. Time > for them to enter the full-EV business in a big way, a way that only Porsche > can. So let’s head out onto the track with the Taycan Turbo S. > > There are many thoughts that go through your head when you enter a race > track property behind the wheel of a high performance car. Usually, “where > am I going to plug this thing in?” is not one of them. But, here we are at > Roebling Road Raceway near Savannah, Georgia with the all-electric 2020 > Porsche Taycan Turbo S. > > Battery recharging aside, track time in the Taycan, quickly reveals a very > familiar feel. > > But before we get too far, we need to better inform you of what exactly it > is we’re driving here. > > The Porsche EV journey of course, started with the Mission E Concept of > 2015. And over these last 5-years, Porsche has assembled the crème de la > crème of electrified automotive performance sedans. > > Powertrain setup is not that unique from other EVs; two-motor arrangement, > one up front, one in rear, providing all-wheel-drive with up to > 670-horsepower in the Taycan Turbo. This Turbo S cranks things up to > 750-horsepower, with 774 lb-ft. of available torque. > > That’s right, Turbo has become more of a model name in the Porsche world, > not so much a descriptor of what’s under the hood; so using the name here is > not that much of a stretch. > > There is some uniqueness with the Taycan; as it is the first EV to operate > on an 800-volt system, which allows you to get to 80% charge in as little as > 22 ½ minutes. And, there’s a 2-speed transmission on the rear axle; > providing ultimate acceleration when launching, and higher efficiency when > cruising. > > 93-kWh of battery capacity, delivers 192-miles of range; the standard Taycan > Turbo just over 200. > > Slightly less if you’re doing ¼-mile runs like this. The Turbo S launches > with a sheer brutality that makes the Nissan GT-R seem tame. Power delivery > is just relentless. It feels like you’ve just left the line, when you glance > down and your already approaching triple digits, after clearing 60 in > 2.8-seconds. > > No gears to change, no tach to monitor, just hold on for dear life as you > finish the ¼ in 10.9-seconds at 129 miles-per-hour. There is some sound > enhancement in the cabin, but it’s not fake vroom, vroom engine noises > you’re hearing; rather the actual sound of the electric motors amplified. We > were divided on its merits; some thought it sounded cool, others said they > would prefer silence. Regardless, metal pushing through wind is all > bystanders can hear. > > Now, back to that familiar Porsche feel. Yes, amazingly, despite the length > and weight of the Taycan, somehow the experience behind the wheel is not > that different from a 911. > > Sure, you do feel the heft in turns, and sometimes when you let off the > throttle it still wants to surge on; but the enormous and standard Ceramic > Composite brakes behind the 21-inch wheels are phenomenal, and keep you from > getting into any trouble. > > It will push a little in corners, as all of the grip keeps the rear planted > at all times; but the sheer amount of torque you can apply coming out of > turns is borderline mind-boggling. > > 4-wheel steering is available in the Turbo, standard here in the S, and it > really helps on turn-ins. Overall feel through the wheel is not quite as > sharp as a Panamara, but far from the “video-game” controller feel of most > other pure EVs. > > Much like the driving experience, the exterior design is all pretty typical > Porsche…but even more beautiful. Aero treatments include an active rear > spoiler, rocker extensions, and rear diffuser. And, there are actually two > charge ports, one on each side depending on what you’re plugging into. > Finally, the standout 21-inch wheels on our test car were sporting Good Year > Eagles. > > The interior is not as futuristic as you might expect; again, more of the > accustomed Porsche vibe. The biggest evolution being the large curved-glass > gauge panel. > > Government Fuel Economy MPGe Ratings are 67-City, 68-Highway, and > 68-Combined. For a near perfect Energy Impact Score, using just 3/10ths of a > barrel of oil per year, with no CO2 emissions. > > Taycan Turbo pricing starts at $154,860; this Turbo S, at $188,960. Such the > price for high performance early adoption. Too much for you? Well, Porsche > has just announced an entry-level Taycan 4S, to start at just $114,340. > > Taking just about everything they’ve learned over their 70-years as a brand, > pushing it into the future with new technology, and cramming it all into one > vehicle, is what the 2020 Porsche Taycan Turbo S is all about. And this is > just the start of Porsche E-Performance, as they’ve already confirmed a > Cross Turismo, and hinted at much more to come down the road. The times they > are indeed a-changin’, and never have they changed, or charged, faster than > with the Taycan. > [© motorweek.org] > > > https://www.porsche.com/usa/models/taycan/taycan-models/taycan-4s/ > $104k taycan-4s r:201mi ts:155mph 0-60mph:3.8s > https://www.google.com/search?q=taycan+4s+range > ... > (dated) > https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/14/18140868/fastcharge-porsche-bmw-450kw-electric-vehicle-charging-station > Porsche and BMW unveil EV charger that's 3 times faster than ... > Dec 14, 2018 - A research group with members including Porsche and BMW has > ... cars with both 400- and 800-volt battery systems, and it will > automatically ... > https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/c7duJxg0VTGbPigeEL1ZUlIHysQ=/0x0:4032x2272/920x613/filters:focal(1694x814:2338x1458):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/62681587/4737065_fastcharge_prototype_for_a_charging_station_jettingen_scheppach_2018_porsche_ag.0.jpg > ... > https://www.electrive.com/2019/09/10/mercedes-presents-the-electric-luxury-sedan-vision-eqs/ > Mercedes presents the electric luxury sedan Vision EQS ... > Sep 10, 2019 - With the Vision EQS Mercedes presented a concept of an > electric ... kW – Mercedes seems to be switching to 800 volt technology with > the next ... > https://www.electrive.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/mercedes-benz-vision-eqs-concept-2019-03-min-888x444.png > > > https://www.motorweek.org/about/upcoming_and_past_shows/episode-episode-3924 > Episode 3924 Debut 2.14.2020 > Description > Track Test: 2020 Porsche Taycan Turbo S > ... (the rest about ice) > > > -Watch- > https://www.kqed.org/tv/programs/index.jsp?pgmid=2346 > Episode #3924H Duration: 26:46 SRND51 TVG > R/T: '20 PORSCHE TAYCAN TURBO S R/T ... > Upcoming Broadcasts: > KQED Plus: Tue, Feb 18, 2020 -- 11:00am > (*SF-CA ota PBS v-ch09.2 rf-ch30) > https://www.kqed.org/tv/schedules/weekly/kqedplus.jsp?ymd=2020-02-16 > > > https://www.motorweek.org/reviews/road_tests > 2021 Polestar 1 EV Episode 3919 > ... > https://www.motorweek.org/reviews/road_tests/P10 > 2019 Audi e-tron Episode 3914 > ... > https://www.motorweek.org/reviews/road_tests/P40 > EV Roundup Episode 3842 > ... > https://www.motorweek.org/reviews/road_tests/P50https://www.motorweek.org/reviews/road_tests/P50 > 2019 Nissan Leaf Plus Episode 3837 > 2019 Kia Niro EV Episode 3835 ... > > > + (dated) > https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a30531280/porsche-taycan-turbo-s-range-epa/ > Porsche Taycan EV's EPA Range Goes from Bad to Worse > Jan 15, 2020 The more powerful Turbo S model is rated to provide even less > range than the Turbo ... The EPA's range estimate for the Porsche Taycan > Turbo S electric car is a low 192 miles ... > https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/2020-porsche-taycan-144-1569266421.jpg > > > > > For EVLN EV-newswire posts view: > http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > https://mail-archive.com/ev@lists.evdl.org/maillist.html > > > {brucedp.neocities.org} > > -- > Sent from: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/ > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
