On Feb 15, 2020, at 11:37 PM, evln via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
% Below is the text from motorweek's review of the
Taycan Turbo S EV and one ota TV listing for the SF-CA PBS
station. Other PBS stations might also be broadcasting the
show, explore
https://www.google.com/search?q=motorweek+Episode+3924
IMO, the review shows motorweek is including more EVs, but
they are still not-EV-drivers ...
Porsche is not the only automaker going 800V packs (see
links below). Actually they 800V systems were touted at
EVS.org/edta/electricdrive.org shows way back in the 2000's.
But now that 300+mi range is where the range bar has been
set, higher pack voltages allow for faster charging of high
kWh packs.
-MW wasted time talking about Mission E, and mpge values,
when they should have otten dow to the nitty gritty of range
between models. The cheaper 4s has the most range.
-MW supported Porsche's use of Turbo naming as their norm,
even though the EV has no turbo-mech, see
https://www.google.com/search?q=taycan+turbo+musk
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-130k-Porsche-s-turbo-less-Taycan-Turbo-performance-EV-tp4692356.html
-MW showed way too many shots of the EV's active rear spoiler
when really it is useless as it only raises up 2 inches. The EV's
price could have been lower just by making the rear design in
the up position with out the silly motorized control. And an
added amplified interor e-motor sound is also dumb.
-MW didn't grasp the regen/freewheeling EVs use as they
disparagingly said: 'off the throttle it still wants to surge
on' = MW is still EV clueless. See below ... %
https://www.motorweek.org/reviews/road_tests/2020-porsche-taycan-turbo-s/
Road Tests Episode 3924
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Being the proud performance-oriented brand that they are, Porsche could only
sit back and watch tesla parade around at ludicrous speed for so long. Time
for them to enter the full-EV business in a big way, a way that only Porsche
can. So let’s head out onto the track with the Taycan Turbo S.
There are many thoughts that go through your head when you enter a race
track property behind the wheel of a high performance car. Usually, “where
am I going to plug this thing in?” is not one of them. But, here we are at
Roebling Road Raceway near Savannah, Georgia with the all-electric 2020
Porsche Taycan Turbo S.
Battery recharging aside, track time in the Taycan, quickly reveals a very
familiar feel.
But before we get too far, we need to better inform you of what exactly it
is we’re driving here.
The Porsche EV journey of course, started with the Mission E Concept of
2015. And over these last 5-years, Porsche has assembled the crème de la
crème of electrified automotive performance sedans.
Powertrain setup is not that unique from other EVs; two-motor arrangement,
one up front, one in rear, providing all-wheel-drive with up to
670-horsepower in the Taycan Turbo. This Turbo S cranks things up to
750-horsepower, with 774 lb-ft. of available torque.
That’s right, Turbo has become more of a model name in the Porsche world,
not so much a descriptor of what’s under the hood; so using the name here is
not that much of a stretch.
There is some uniqueness with the Taycan; as it is the first EV to operate
on an 800-volt system, which allows you to get to 80% charge in as little as
22 ½ minutes. And, there’s a 2-speed transmission on the rear axle;
providing ultimate acceleration when launching, and higher efficiency when
cruising.
93-kWh of battery capacity, delivers 192-miles of range; the standard Taycan
Turbo just over 200.
Slightly less if you’re doing ¼-mile runs like this. The Turbo S launches
with a sheer brutality that makes the Nissan GT-R seem tame. Power delivery
is just relentless. It feels like you’ve just left the line, when you glance
down and your already approaching triple digits, after clearing 60 in
2.8-seconds.
No gears to change, no tach to monitor, just hold on for dear life as you
finish the ¼ in 10.9-seconds at 129 miles-per-hour. There is some sound
enhancement in the cabin, but it’s not fake vroom, vroom engine noises
you’re hearing; rather the actual sound of the electric motors amplified. We
were divided on its merits; some thought it sounded cool, others said they
would prefer silence. Regardless, metal pushing through wind is all
bystanders can hear.
Now, back to that familiar Porsche feel. Yes, amazingly, despite the length
and weight of the Taycan, somehow the experience behind the wheel is not
that different from a 911.
Sure, you do feel the heft in turns, and sometimes when you let off the
throttle it still wants to surge on; but the enormous and standard Ceramic
Composite brakes behind the 21-inch wheels are phenomenal, and keep you from
getting into any trouble.
It will push a little in corners, as all of the grip keeps the rear planted
at all times; but the sheer amount of torque you can apply coming out of
turns is borderline mind-boggling.
4-wheel steering is available in the Turbo, standard here in the S, and it
really helps on turn-ins. Overall feel through the wheel is not quite as
sharp as a Panamara, but far from the “video-game” controller feel of most
other pure EVs.
Much like the driving experience, the exterior design is all pretty typical
Porsche…but even more beautiful. Aero treatments include an active rear
spoiler, rocker extensions, and rear diffuser. And, there are actually two
charge ports, one on each side depending on what you’re plugging into.
Finally, the standout 21-inch wheels on our test car were sporting Good Year
Eagles.
The interior is not as futuristic as you might expect; again, more of the
accustomed Porsche vibe. The biggest evolution being the large curved-glass
gauge panel.
Government Fuel Economy MPGe Ratings are 67-City, 68-Highway, and
68-Combined. For a near perfect Energy Impact Score, using just 3/10ths of a
barrel of oil per year, with no CO2 emissions.
Taycan Turbo pricing starts at $154,860; this Turbo S, at $188,960. Such the
price for high performance early adoption. Too much for you? Well, Porsche
has just announced an entry-level Taycan 4S, to start at just $114,340.
Taking just about everything they’ve learned over their 70-years as a brand,
pushing it into the future with new technology, and cramming it all into one
vehicle, is what the 2020 Porsche Taycan Turbo S is all about. And this is
just the start of Porsche E-Performance, as they’ve already confirmed a
Cross Turismo, and hinted at much more to come down the road. The times they
are indeed a-changin’, and never have they changed, or charged, faster than
with the Taycan.
[© motorweek.org]
https://www.porsche.com/usa/models/taycan/taycan-models/taycan-4s/
$104k taycan-4s r:201mi ts:155mph 0-60mph:3.8s
https://www.google.com/search?q=taycan+4s+range
...
(dated)
https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/14/18140868/fastcharge-porsche-bmw-450kw-electric-vehicle-charging-station
Porsche and BMW unveil EV charger that's 3 times faster than ...
Dec 14, 2018 - A research group with members including Porsche and BMW has
... cars with both 400- and 800-volt battery systems, and it will
automatically ...
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...
https://www.electrive.com/2019/09/10/mercedes-presents-the-electric-luxury-sedan-vision-eqs/
Mercedes presents the electric luxury sedan Vision EQS ...
Sep 10, 2019 - With the Vision EQS Mercedes presented a concept of an
electric ... kW – Mercedes seems to be switching to 800 volt technology with
the next ...
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https://www.motorweek.org/about/upcoming_and_past_shows/episode-episode-3924
Episode 3924 Debut 2.14.2020
Description
Track Test: 2020 Porsche Taycan Turbo S
... (the rest about ice)
-Watch-
https://www.kqed.org/tv/programs/index.jsp?pgmid=2346
Episode #3924H Duration: 26:46 SRND51 TVG
R/T: '20 PORSCHE TAYCAN TURBO S R/T ...
Upcoming Broadcasts:
KQED Plus: Tue, Feb 18, 2020 -- 11:00am
(*SF-CA ota PBS v-ch09.2 rf-ch30)
https://www.kqed.org/tv/schedules/weekly/kqedplus.jsp?ymd=2020-02-16
https://www.motorweek.org/reviews/road_tests
2021 Polestar 1 EV Episode 3919
...
https://www.motorweek.org/reviews/road_tests/P10
2019 Audi e-tron Episode 3914
...
https://www.motorweek.org/reviews/road_tests/P40
EV Roundup Episode 3842
...
https://www.motorweek.org/reviews/road_tests/P50https://www.motorweek.org/reviews/road_tests/P50
2019 Nissan Leaf Plus Episode 3837
2019 Kia Niro EV Episode 3835 ...
+ (dated)
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a30531280/porsche-taycan-turbo-s-range-epa/
Porsche Taycan EV's EPA Range Goes from Bad to Worse
Jan 15, 2020 The more powerful Turbo S model is rated to provide even less
range than the Turbo ... The EPA's range estimate for the Porsche Taycan
Turbo S electric car is a low 192 miles ...
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