On 19 Jan 2021 at 7:30, Willie via EV wrote: > EVDL seems to be on it's last legs
Nope. Our traffic did take a big hit in 2012, falling by about half. I think that was mostly down to the Nissan Leaf and Tesla S. They and their production EV bretheren have pretty well buried hobbyist EVs, which were the list's bread and butter for a long time. The dedicated forums for them have probably drawn discussion away from here. I think that the rise of smartphones and the decline of email (and privacy) were additional factors. (Anti-)social media too. The EVDL used to be the only game in town for EV info. Not any more, and that's mostly a good thing, though I personally avoid Fakebook and the like, mostly for privacy reasons. So, in case you care, by the numbers: In 2016 EVDL traffic stabilized at something over 1/3 of the 2010 numbers. Since then it's been quite consistent at around 3600 posts per year. Bruce's posts were just under 1/3 of the total last year, so despite the slow January so far, I expect between 2000 and 2400 posts in 2021. That's not peanuts. For comparison, last year the Elec-Trak list attracted 119 posts, and the C-Car list 320, and nobody said they were on their last legs. I know, those lists are dedicated to specialized EVs, but still ... EVDL membership peaked after the big fuel price runups in 2007 and early 2008, then fell back as prices did. It's been stable at around 650 subscribers for the last few years. A lot of them are life-long EVers, so if you young whippersnappers are looking for EV wisdom, this is the place to get it. The EVDL will also always win in mission. It's here to support EVs and EV owners, not advertisers and a big well-paid staff. Also in usability; it'll never nag you to update your browser or install an app. It won't dog your computer with hidden scripts, crash your browser, shove ads in your face, radicalize you, track you, or "monetize" (sell) your personal data. I think that's worth sustaining. It won't be going away. David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = The telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. -- Albert Einstein = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
