The thing that most impresses me about Tesla is the charging infrastructure. A good many times I take my Volt or Bolt and try to charge , the charger is in use or broken. Or it’s some charger i haven’t signed up for. And, as I’ve stated, when you try to fast charge the price is all over the place. Then I go by a Sheets and see 10 Tesla chargers, mostly unoccupied. I’m jealous. I understand newer Teslas pay to charge at their chargers. What is the rate and what is the experience? I wish they would include one or two chargers for the rest of us. I’m willing to pay- I just want the consistency in price and availability.
-Steve > On Feb 23, 2021, at 1:43 PM, Mark Hanson via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > Thanks Peter for the thoughtful reply. I was plugged into a 350Kw Electrify > America Level3 charger on the way to the Tesla dealership in Richmond at 34F > degrees, charged from about 40% to 80% (can’t fast charge past 80%), took > about an hour since like you mentioned the Bolt tapers down (requests current > limit from the 480v 3phase charger) from 50KW ish to 25kw. So most of my > charging was done at the lower rate, hence the long charge time. After > looking at a bunch of Tesla S 3 X Y (mostly Ys looking at for towing the > 1480lb ski boat), I came back to the same Sheetz to spend another hour for > another 25KWH. Tesla’s charge completely in about 15 minutes at 150KW the > salesman said. If it weren’t $50K with no fed incentives , I’d buy one. The > Bolt was $30k new ($40k- $10k Covid discount). Shelor in Christiansburg is > selling 21’ models now at $26K (after the Covid discount). > Stay Charged > Mark > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 23, 2021, at 11:38 AM, e...@vanderwal.us wrote: >> >> Not sure where you you read that, but I'm betting it said 55kw and not >> 55kwh. >> >> The bolt can charge at up to 55kw (assuming you are plugged into at least an >> 80kw DC fast charger) but it will only charge at that rate until the battery >> gets to 55% SOC, then it drops down to 35kw until it hits 70% SOC, where it >> drops down to 25 kw until it hits 85% SOC, 15kw until 95% and 10kw until 100% >> >> So if you push the car into the charging spot with a completely empty >> battery, you can charge at 55kw for about 37 minutes before the charge rate >> drops to 35kw, and another 15-16 minutes before it drops to 25kw, etc. >> >> The maximum you can get into the pack in 1 hour is about 45kwh, and that is >> only if you start with a completely empty pack and are using a charger rated >> for 80kw or higher. >> Oh yeah, temperature also effects charge rate, charging can slow down if the >> temperature is very high or very low. >> >> Note: you need a charger rated for 80kw because chargers are rated for >> different voltages than most EVs use. >> Most fast chargers are rated for charging a 500V pack or higher. So an 80kw >> charger is rated for a maximum of 160 amps at up to 500V. You don't get more >> current if using a lower voltage. >> >> The Bolt's battery pack is only 350-360V and it can only charge at a max of >> 155 Amps (~55kw) but as I said above it will only do that up to 55% SOC. >> If you plug into a 50kw fast charger (500V @ 100 amps) you will only get >> 35kw charging even if the battery is below 55% SOC. >> If you plug into a 35kw fast charger you will only get 24-25 kwh. >> >> So depending on the SOC you start at and the rating on the DC fast charger, >> you could end up with only 25kwh after 1 hour. >> I.e. if you plug into a 35kw charger (25kw effective charge rate) you will >> get exactly 25kwh after 1 hour unless you go above 85% SOC. The majority of >> the older DC fast chargers were rated for 35kw. >> >> February 23, 2021 6:05 AM, "Mark Hanson via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: >> >> Hi folks >> When I fast charge on the Road to 80% with my Bolt EV it takes about an hour >> to put back 25KWH. The >> manual says it should be 55kwh in an hour. Does anyone know why it’s not >> charging at the 55KW rate? >> Is there an aftermarket kit to boost the KW acceptance rate? Electrify >> America fast CCS chargers >> operate to 350KW. Also I paid 43c per kWh at Sheetz near Charlottesville Va >> (home is 12c). I assume >> they split the take between Sheetz and Electrify America (VW)? >> I saw on the news that folks in Texas are paying $100s per KWH and utilities >> cleaning out checking >> accounts $10k-$16k since direct link to accounts. How is this even possible >> to charge that much per >> KWh? Aren’t utilities regulated for a max per kWh they can charge? I have a >> direct link to my >> checking account with my utility to pay the monthly $31 service fee (net >> zero solar customer ) but >> maybe I should discontinue my checking account number with them and go back >> to monthly >> billing/paper checks so they couldn’t clean out my checking account? >> Have a renewable energy day >> Mark in Roanoke >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >> ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive >> LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
