EV-1s are a reason some people have very little interest in GM's offerings.
The Leaf (Gen 1 battery issues) is a reason some people have little interest Nissan's offerings. Elon is a reason some people have little interest in Tesla's offerings. (Lack of) repairability by independent service is also a differentiator between manufacturers. Elon is a figurehead who has on multiple occasions made poorly considered comments that make (some, even many) people's eyes roll. IMO he has some of the same kind of power that Steve Jobs had at Apple in terms of being a powerful figure who can change the direction of a company, and he also has the power of an RDF (Reality Distortion Field). Re: Autopilot. I've heard from a pilot friend that it is suitably named for someone with knowledge of aircraft autopilots, their capabilities, and their limitations. From the perspective of the average person, though, the word autopilot carries a broader meaning that means able to fly without a pilot at the yoke, i.e. self-flying. Practically, though, obstacle avoidance on the road, is a harder problem to solve than keeping a course in the air at cruising altitudes where hazardous obstacles are relatively few, and spacings are standardized. In the end, if one believes in an EV future, and wants to put their money where their mouth is, and wants to drive an EV, there are trade-offs to be made. Does one go with a home DIY conversion? That may not be maintainable by a third party. Or with a professional conversion that offers open diagnostics (Maxwell ProMaster)? Or a manufacturer that solely produces EVs, that has years of successful products on the road, but is resistant to allowing or enabling 3rd party diagnostics (Tesla)? Or a manufacturer that isn't dedicated to EVs and has produced some EV products that aren't holding up well (Nissan with Leaf G1)? Or a manufacturer that isn't dedicated to EVs (and has done anti-EV things in the past) and has produced some EV products that are okay, but don't have a national charging grid (GM)? Or a new manufacturer that doesn't have history (Nikola, Rivian, etc.)? There is a saying that seems suitable: the perfect is the enemy of the good. On Sun, Jul 11, 2021, 07:16 Mark Grasser via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > Should we bring up EV-1s while we are here! LOL > > -----Original Message----- > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Willie via EV > Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2021 11:45 PM > To: ev@lists.evdl.org > Cc: Willie > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Tesla's Self Driving Feature > > > > On 7/10/21 9:43 PM, nathan christiansn via EV wrote: > >> I think that most Tesla devotees are either unaware of or underestimate > > the > >> level of distaste (to put it mildly) for Elon Musk that exists on the > >> periphery of EV interest. > > > > While Elon may have an impulsive personality, you cannot ignore the > wonders > > he has done for Tesla and EVs in general. Without Elon, I believe it that > > we might not have production EVs today. > > Nathan! Please desist! You are ruining my "Fell down the EVDL rabbit > hole" experience! Off with his head! > > Elon Musk's successes CAN be ignored as we continue to do here. Many > here seem to want to return to the good old days when the future of EVs > was very uncertain. > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20210711/947a429f/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
