I am very clear: it is not efficient nor economical to produce hydrogen
from electrolysis and it is more efficient and economic to use and store
electricity in batteries than to convert to hydrogen, compress and
transport it, then convert it back to electricity using a fuel cell.
Peri
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------ Original Message ------
From: "Mark Abramowitz" <ma...@enviropolicy.com>
To: "Peri Hartman" <pe...@kotatko.com>; "Electric Vehicle Discussion
List" <ev@lists.evdl.org>
Sent: 15-Aug-21 08:29:29
Subject: Re: [EVDL] hydrogen isn't green, after all
I made several points. You weren’t clear what you didn’t believe.
Let me know and I’ll do my best to address it.
- Mark
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On Aug 15, 2021, at 8:09 AM, Peri Hartman via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
Mark, it's you who is attempting to make a point. I'm waiting for you to
substantiate your point. If you can do that without numbers, that's fine.
Peri
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------ Original Message ------
From: "Mark Abramowitz via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org>
Cc: "Mark Abramowitz" <ma...@enviropolicy.com>
Sent: 14-Aug-21 21:19:00
Subject: Re: [EVDL] hydrogen isn't green, after all
I’m not sure what you want numbers on, but a point can certainly be made
without them, and frequently, numbers can get in the way.
- Mark
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On Aug 14, 2021, at 8:47 PM, Peri Hartman via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
Mark, if you wish to present a point, please at least provide numbers in your
post and a more specific reference. We all have other things to do, beside
repeat research you've already done.
Peri
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------ Original Message ------
From: "Mark Abramowitz" <ma...@enviropolicy.com>
To: "Peri Hartman" <pe...@kotatko.com>; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List"
<ev@lists.evdl.org>
Sent: 14-Aug-21 07:09:30
Subject: Re: [EVDL] hydrogen isn't green, after all
I think focus on that article was not “green” hydrogen, but “blue” hydrogen,
made from fossil with carbon sequestered.
All I’ll say about blue hydrogen is that I share some of your concerns about
the ability to really do it.
On the green side, I think that your numbers are way off.
Do a search for Hydrogen 101 and Jack Brouwer for some interesting numbers.
And I can tell you that in terms of the economics, at least one company that is
building production plants as we speak, believes that they can produce green
hydrogen at a cost competitive with “grey” hydrogen, and within a few years,
competitive with diesel, which is really what we need to compare it with.
- Mark
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