Yes, that would be if you exclusively charged at superchargers. I have never done that I would guess most people charge at home because of convenience. My supercharging is less that 20% of my charging. I suspect you got your vehicle way below market value. On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 03:45:32 PM CDT, Cor van de Water via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: In my PG&E service area, once you are over baseline consumption the minimum charge is $0.35 per kWh. So for me that charge would be well over a grand per year. My 2013 S used to have unlimited free supercharging, but the previous owner had a fender bender on the right rear quarter panel and as result, Tesla disabled all DC Fast Charging. This means that even the CHAdeMO converter that was bought for the car is now useless. Luckily I am an experienced EV'er so I always plan ahead and almost never need public charging anyway, but last year the wife and I were planning a 350 mi one way trip (Bay Area to LA) and despite having an abundance of DC Fast Charge to choose from along the 5 Freeway, we were looking at a minimum 1.5 hours stop for AC slow-ish charging (hopefully 48A because my S has the dual charger and can go up to 80A despite no public charger of that speed is available). Minimum 1.5h, which I would only reach if I drive constant 55MPH (and no Airco) on the I-5 which can be... hairy because ALL traffic is going 70+ there. I have considered pestering Tesla to *at least* re-enable DC Fast Charging, even if I can't use the Supercharging network, but I heard from others that Tesla's method of disabling Supercharging is by turning DCFC off in the car, which is... stupid and unnecessary, I am *sure* that the Supercharging network can identify cars - how else can they enable other cars to start using their Superchargers? Unhappily yours, Cor.
On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 1:27 PM paul dove via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > Interesting article. > I have a Model S with unlimited supercharging and I have never heard of this > offer. > So, how exactly is Tesla trying to get us to give up free supercharging? > It appears that it is an incentive to try and sell new cars which don't have > free supercharging rather than a ploy to take it away from current owners. > Especially since the only way one would know of it is if they were shopping > for a new Tesla. > They removed free supercharging years ago as an option. > I doubt it swayed many people to upgrade that weren't already in the market > especially because like the article said it was only on a trade-in and > everyone knows you can get more for your vehicle if you sell it yourself..... > though maybe not $5000 so you might consider a trade in for ease if you > aren't losing money. > To be honest though, unless you drive a lot it doesn't save much to have free > supercharging. > I used 3561 Kwh in the last 12 months. I pay $0.11 a kwh at home and I > believe the same at a supercharger in my area. > So, roughly $400 a year. Even if you double that to $800 a year it takes a > long time to get to $5000. > Plus it says they were offering 6 years free supercharging to boot. > I don't see how this is in any way a negative but just extra incentive to > upgrade if you were looking to...... > > On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 11:18:44 AM CDT, EV List Lackey via EV ><ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > Tesla tries to get owners to give up `unlimited free Supercharging for life´ > > Fred Lambert | Apr 24 2023 - 12:25 am PT > > "Tesla is trying again to get owners of older Model S and Model X with > unlimited free Supercharging for life to give up the perk ... > > "Current Tesla Model S or Model X owners with active unlimited free > Supercharging are eligible for 6 years of unlimited Supercharging. To > qualify, owners must trade in or remove unlimited Supercharging from their > vehicle and take delivery of a new Model S or Model X by June 30, 2023 ... > > "It´s interesting that Tesla is just now trying hard to get people off of > the unlimited free Supercharging just as it appears to try to make > Supercharging a profit center - something it originally said it wouldn´t do. > > "With non-Tesla EV drivers now getting access to the network, it looks like > Tesla is now looking to see what the Supercharger network would look like as > a full-scale money-making charging network." > > Complete article: > > https://electrek.co/2023/04/24/tesla-triesowners-give-up-unlimited-free- > supercharging-for-life/ > > or https://v.gd/vBwnXc > > David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey > > To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my > offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > Reporter (to Mahatma Gandhi): Mr Gandhi, what do you think of > Western Civilization? > Gandhi: I think it would be a good idea. > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20230424/2719c893/attachment.htm> > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20230424/23eb33e1/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/