Thanks, good to know the name Elaphe and to have the video links.
After 10 or 20 or more years of all of the broader vehicle-driving
community being talked-at about in-wheel motors (going back to the early
dreams of the MIEV and perhaps before), and notwithstanding that they
are available on some slower 2-wheelers, I'd love to see an actual
decent highway-capable passenger vehicle that actually incorporates this
technology and makes it widely and affordably available to consumers.
Does anyone know of such a vehicle for sale right now? Anything in China?
As to Aptera, I hope they start actually delivering vehicles soon.
Josh
On 7/26/2023 5:05 PM, Ryan Fulcher via EV wrote:
The hub motors that Aptera are using are made by Elaphe, see these videos I
posted earlier:
On 7/8/2023 8:51 PM, Ryan Fulcher wrote:
https://youtu.be/CqPMtEIT3f4
https://youtu.be/1alRUqx9UX8
Also, in case anyone saw the recent national news story where an Aptera
overheated... We got details later, that car was a Gamma prototype from 18
months ago for mostly aesthetic demos. So it never has any cooling system
components installed, so it's actually done quite well for basically being
run with no active thermal management to speak of...
On Wed, Jul 26, 2023, 16:24 Josh Landess via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
I do think it's fair to give these things a chance in the public
marketplace, especially if it could be in a moderate passenger EV that
tries to highlight some of their strengths and not their weaknesses. I
personally still would not consider buying one unless or until we see
extensive uninhibited feedback from unbiased drivers simply talking
about their experiences, good, bad or indifferent.
A part of the problem is that such motors have been mentioned various
times as integral to saving energy and being part of an important EV
project, and then, somehow, they just don't quite make it to where we
can consider buying it.
It's been a long time, but taking a quick look around I see these two
in-wheel hub motor providers are still in theory trying to make a go of
it. There may be many more (perhaps someone can say who Aptera is using
if it isn't already clear), but just noting these two:
https://www.proteanelectric.com/
more than a decade ago, I seem to remember them issuing a white paper
that attempted to lay out some of the arguments in-favor-of, and address
some of the criticisms. I don't know where things stand these days, but
taking a way-overly-quick look, it does seem at least they are still in
discussion with some automakers:
https://www.proteanelectric.com/news/
for example:
28.Apr.23
Dongfeng Motor Showcases All-Wheel Drive Luxury Sedan Powered By
ProteanDrive, Weeks After Announcing Version Driven By Two In-Wheel Motors
and we have this other blast-from-the-past:
https://www.saietta.com/about-us/
however, I don't know if they are presently trying to offer the in-wheel
product. I don't presently see language about it on their page.
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