These stats don't align with my personal experience. We have owned two
used Leafs over the past 7 years and have had zero (0) issues. Changed
tires, changed wiper blades, and filled the windshield washer fluid.
Never brought either in for any repair. How did Nissan fair compared to
others in the mix?
It may be that the complaints arise from consumer misunderstanding of
how to correctly/optimally use the vehicle. Perhaps unrealistic
expectations might also play some role in the low score.
For example, the person that I sold our first Leaf to plugged the
charger into the car, but somehow neglected to plug the charger into the
wall when he first got the car. This went on for several days until he
realized that the battery was nearly flat.
Bill D.
On 12/1/2023 4:37 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
I don't have access to consumer reports, but this article summarized it:
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/consumer-reports-electric-vehicles-less-reliable-on-average-than-conventional-cars-and-trucks/
...
Consumer Reports, which found that EVs from the 2021 through 2023
model years encountered nearly 80% more problems than did vehicles
propelled by internal combustion engines.
...
Consumer Reports said EV owners most frequently reported troubles with
battery and charging systems as well as flaws in how the vehicles’
body panels and interior parts fit together.
...
The Consumer Reports survey also concluded that plug-in hybrids, which
can travel on battery power before a gas-electric powertrain kicks in,
are more problem-prone than fully electric vehicles. [Do the stats
include plug-ins or just pure EVs ?]
...
EVs from the 2021 and 2022 model years overall had more than twice the
problem rates of internal combustion vehicles. The rates were more
closely aligned in the 2023 model year: Those EVs had only 21% more
problems than gasoline vehicles, Fisher said.
...
Consumer Reports says its survey of subscribers, representing 330,000
vehicles, took place last spring and summer. It asked owners of
vehicles from the 2000 through 2023 model years, with a smattering of
2024 models, about problems they had experienced in the previous 12
months. [What are the stats for pre 2021 models ?]
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I think it's highly misrepresentative. They only reported problems for
the last 2-3 years. That means the type of problems reported are
likely due to manufacturing problems rather than durability. If they
had gone over 10 years, I wonder what the stats would be.
If anyone has access to consumer reports, I'd like to know what the
full report says. Did seattle times misrepresent EVs or did consumer
reports ?
P.S. I used to read consumer reports but found they typically review
only new products and don't look at how products hold up during their
lifetime. That's nice but only half the story.
Peri
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