I agree but notice it only listed two complaints body panels not fitting and battery or charging issues. They also didn’t list Tesla or mention them. Lexus was the top of the list. It was mostly focused on hybrids.
Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, November 30, 2023, 10:15 AM, Bill Dube via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: These stats don't align with my personal experience. We have owned two used Leafs over the past 7 years and have had zero (0) issues. Changed tires, changed wiper blades, and filled the windshield washer fluid. Never brought either in for any repair. How did Nissan fair compared to others in the mix? It may be that the complaints arise from consumer misunderstanding of how to correctly/optimally use the vehicle. Perhaps unrealistic expectations might also play some role in the low score. For example, the person that I sold our first Leaf to plugged the charger into the car, but somehow neglected to plug the charger into the wall when he first got the car. This went on for several days until he realized that the battery was nearly flat. Bill D. On 12/1/2023 4:37 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > I don't have access to consumer reports, but this article summarized it: > https://www.seattletimes.com/business/consumer-reports-electric-vehicles-less-reliable-on-average-than-conventional-cars-and-trucks/ > > > > ... > Consumer Reports, which found that EVs from the 2021 through 2023 > model years encountered nearly 80% more problems than did vehicles > propelled by internal combustion engines. > ... > Consumer Reports said EV owners most frequently reported troubles with > battery and charging systems as well as flaws in how the vehicles’ > body panels and interior parts fit together. > ... > The Consumer Reports survey also concluded that plug-in hybrids, which > can travel on battery power before a gas-electric powertrain kicks in, > are more problem-prone than fully electric vehicles. [Do the stats > include plug-ins or just pure EVs ?] > ... > EVs from the 2021 and 2022 model years overall had more than twice the > problem rates of internal combustion vehicles. The rates were more > closely aligned in the 2023 model year: Those EVs had only 21% more > problems than gasoline vehicles, Fisher said. > ... > Consumer Reports says its survey of subscribers, representing 330,000 > vehicles, took place last spring and summer. It asked owners of > vehicles from the 2000 through 2023 model years, with a smattering of > 2024 models, about problems they had experienced in the previous 12 > months. [What are the stats for pre 2021 models ?] > > --------- > > I think it's highly misrepresentative. They only reported problems for > the last 2-3 years. That means the type of problems reported are > likely due to manufacturing problems rather than durability. If they > had gone over 10 years, I wonder what the stats would be. > > If anyone has access to consumer reports, I'd like to know what the > full report says. Did seattle times misrepresent EVs or did consumer > reports ? > > P.S. I used to read consumer reports but found they typically review > only new products and don't look at how products hold up during their > lifetime. That's nice but only half the story. > > Peri > > << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20231201/95dfd6b8/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
