I believe it's a good thing. The master plan is sustainable transportation. Elon's statement going balls to the wall for autonomy is a 10 billion dollar AI investment in DOJO a kind of cyber training ground for FSD full self driving and eventually optimus (a humanoid robot to replace human labor) capturing massive video edge cases to process will make it possible to safely utilize the onboard inference ADAS advanced driver assistance system computer in a Tesla as almost all are now FSD equipped cars that mostly sits around doing nothing most of the time to become available most of the time. This would utilize the existing fleet thus reducing the need to manufacture as many cars if you can wake up the fleet into robotaxies. This would drastically reduce transportation cost. Material needs on and on. Time will tell...Danny Ames On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 05:23:03 PM PDT, EV List Lackey via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: On 14 May 2024 at 10:35, Rush via EV wrote:
> I think that anybody having any knowledge of how a business is conducted > would say that 'yes, profit is a good thing'. Let's restore the context: > AND still make a hefty profit on each car As I understood it, and someone correct me if this is wrong, the original Tesla "master plan" was to get to mass market EVs. They'd start with building luxury EVs for rich people, and use the presumably *hefty* profits from that venture to design and build EVs for the rest of us. That plan was written a long time ago - maybe 2008? Again, someone please help me out here. The Model 3 was introduced 7 years ago, in 2017. That was real progress toward affordable EVs, 9 years on from the master plan's inception. Not bad. Is that master plan still their guide? If so, what progress have they made on it since? Not the Model Y (2020). It's more expensive. I'm pretty sure it's not the Cybertruck (2023), either. It seems that since 2017, Tesla has gone into reverse on their original master plan. Their recent investor call suggested pretty strongly that they're going to start using their EV profits less to develop EVs, and more to develop AI, autonomy software, and robotaxis. Their recent layoffs seem to confirm that direction. What do you think of this? Is it a good thing? Is it likely to be permanent, or is it just another Elon Musk shot-from-the- hip that he'll change next month or next year? David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = If economists wished to study the horse, they wouldn't go and look at horses. They'd sit in their studies and say to themselves, "What would I do if I were a horse?" -- Ely Devons = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20240515/c36549c5/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/