On 13 Sep 2025 at 19:30, Bryce Nesbitt via EV wrote:

> With EV's being sold on acceleration and performance, you can be sure
> that's what will be delivered.  ... Faster, heavier, more dangerous
> every year for EV's. 

And for ICEVs too.

A fast-accelerating vehicle has the potential to get you out of a tough 
situation in a hurry, but it can also get an inexperienced or impared driver 
in a lot of trouble fast.

I don't know for sure, but I think that the horsepower and fast acceleration 
race is mostly a US phenomenon. It's been going on there as long as I can 
remember, certainly since I was in high school, back when Mustang GTs and 
GTOs and Hemi Chargers were tearing up the asphalt.  

I don't see it much in Europe.  There are exotic supercars on offer, but I 
hardly ever see them except at car shows, and very very rarely in big 
cities.  Out here in the provinces where I live, nobody has that kind of 
money.

And it does take money.  Gas is expensive here, $6-8 per gallon, and France 
at least has a malus tax on the purchase of high-CO2-emitting vehicles that 
ranges up to 60,000 euros (US$70,000+).  

Now and then I see sporty versions of superminis, but not all that often. 

Normal cars, both EV and ICEV, emphasize comfort and efficiency over speed 
and acceleration.  A 0-60 time of 7 seconds is considered fast.  Your 
typical car is more like 9-12 seconds.  As for efficiency, even the big ICE 
(these days almost always stop-start mild hybrid or PHEV) SUVs get 40-50mpg, 
small cars upwards of 55-65mpg.  

Just different cultures, I guess.

David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey

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