Hi Elizabeth, When we place a meta record hold all of print that is not large print has the format book so we would need to add formats. This is a good consideration that I've been thinking about.
Thank you for your help. Joan On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 1:06 PM Elizabeth Davis via Evergreen-general < evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > Hello > > > > PaILS uses the same record for hardcover and trade paper editions. We > encourage a separate record for mass market paperback. I’d have to test it > but would the multi-format hold work for instances where you have records > for the hardcover and one for the paperback? > > > > > > > > *Elizabeth Davis* (she/her), *Support & Project Management Specialist* > > *Pennsylvania Integrated Library System **(PaILS) | SPARK* > > (717) 256-1627 | elizabeth.da...@sparkpa.org > <katherine.dann...@sparkpa.org> > support.sparkpa.org | supp...@sparkpa.org > > > > *From:* Evergreen-general < > evergreen-general-boun...@list.evergreen-ils.org> *On Behalf Of *Terran > McCanna via Evergreen-general > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 20, 2024 1:01 PM > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group <evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org > > > *Cc:* Terran McCanna <tmcca...@georgialibraries.org> > *Subject:* Re: [Evergreen-general] [External] Paperback vs. Hardcover > Records > > > > PINES uses separate records. > > > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 12:57 PM Szwagiel, Will via Evergreen-general < > evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > > Good afternoon Joan, > > > > Like you, our bibliographic records can contain both paperback and > hardcover versions of a book. We actually encourage this, as well, as part > of our cataloging best practices to try and cut down on duplicate records > and to make sure that as many items as possible are available for patrons > on a single record. There will be instances, however, where we suggest > using a separate record, but that is usually based on the content of the > book, not whether it is paperback or hardcover. > > > > The majority of our member libraries are fine with this, but we do > occasionally receive requests to separate paperbacks and hardcovers, > because some libraries have patrons who only want one or the other. One > recommendation we have made is for libraries to use call numbers and/or > shelving locations to identify if a specific item is paperback. For > example, one member library puts "Apb" for "Adult Paperback" at the > beginning of the call numbers for mass market paperback books. > > > > This may not help patrons as much when placing holds, because they cannot > place item level holds, but it allows staff to easily identify a paperback > version so they can place an item hold for the patron. Staff would just > have to encourage patrons to come to them to place the hold, so the staff > can place the item level hold for the patron. > > > > It is admittedly not a perfect solution, but because we have combined > paperbacks and hardcovers on single records for so long, trying to split > them up now would simply be unfeasible. And even if we began instructing > catalogers to use separate records moving forward, that would still leave > countless existing records in the catalog with both paperbacks and > hardcovers on them. > > > > *William C. Szwagiel* > > NC Cardinal Project Manager > > State Library of North Carolina > > william.szwag...@ncdcr.gov | 919.814.6721 > > https://statelibrary.ncdcr.gov/services-libraries/nc-cardinal > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__statelibrary.ncdcr.gov_services-2Dlibraries_nc-2Dcardinal&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=LRHEWfG7tKtoSjGM1XBmJX5tlkBCMt3lnyKxcaVacsw&m=kjPccD-EhhqnmskWzrp3GLzuWBZxnfCLqsKtt5gujNc5U-uEWr8LMFuzty892oD5&s=qaTgbSaMM5WJ5Tpq9J4HiytjSLhXS36iM3CB0mUn3Bk&e=> > > 109 East Jones Street | 4640 Mail Service Center > > Raleigh, North Carolina 27699-4600 > > The State Library is part of the NC Department of Natural & Cultural > Resources. > > *Email correspondence to and from this address is subject to the North > Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties.* > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Evergreen-general < > evergreen-general-boun...@list.evergreen-ils.org> on behalf of Joan > Kranich via Evergreen-general <evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 20, 2024 12:43 PM > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group <evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org > > > *Cc:* Joan Kranich <jkran...@cwmars.org> > *Subject:* [External] [Evergreen-general] Paperback vs. Hardcover Records > > > > *CAUTION:* External email. Do not click links or open attachments unless > verified. Report suspicious emails with the Report Message button located > on your Outlook menu bar on the Home tab. > > > > Hi, > > > > In C/W MARS a bibliographic record may contain items for paperback and for > hardcover. We have had some recommendations to separate paperback items > from hardcover items. > > > > This is a change on the cataloging side but also with how holds would be > filled. > > > > Do any of you use separate bibliographic records for paperback vs. > hardcover or do you have another workflow to make it easy for staff and > patrons to place holds to be filled by one format vs. the other? > > > > Thank you. > > > > Joan > > > > -- > > > *Joan Kranich *(she/her/hers) > Library Applications Manager, C/W MARS, Inc. > ------------------------------ > > [image: icon]jkran...@cwmars.org* | **[image: icon]*www.cwmars.org > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.cwmars.org_&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=LRHEWfG7tKtoSjGM1XBmJX5tlkBCMt3lnyKxcaVacsw&m=kjPccD-EhhqnmskWzrp3GLzuWBZxnfCLqsKtt5gujNc5U-uEWr8LMFuzty892oD5&s=bAw4fmInS6a_yK0kOQxR4-fKQYrYuuzoViTok-4m1iI&e=> > > *[image: icon]*508-755-3323 x 1 > > > ------------------------------ > > > Email correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North > Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an > authorized state official. > > _______________________________________________ > Evergreen-general mailing list > Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org > http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__list.evergreen-2Dils.org_cgi-2Dbin_mailman_listinfo_evergreen-2Dgeneral&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=LRHEWfG7tKtoSjGM1XBmJX5tlkBCMt3lnyKxcaVacsw&m=kjPccD-EhhqnmskWzrp3GLzuWBZxnfCLqsKtt5gujNc5U-uEWr8LMFuzty892oD5&s=WQenDWz12pOLNjCUfxM_wiqkJGg_Ss48yG0RPxgBxf8&e=> > > _______________________________________________ > Evergreen-general mailing list > Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org > http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general > -- Joan Kranich (she/her/hers) Library Applications Manager, C/W MARS, Inc. ------------------------------ [image: icon] jkran...@cwmars.org | [image: icon]www.cwmars.org [image: icon] 508-755-3323 x 1
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