On Thursday, July 3, 2025 at 7:38:03 PM UTC-6 Brent Meeker wrote:



On 7/3/2025 2:51 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:

I definitely understand the mathematics and logic that for light speed to 
be frame invariant, length contraction and time dilation must occur. But I 
don't see any physical model that allows that to occur, and I don't think 
Relativity provides that model. AG


You seem to have a hang up about "models".  What exactly are you asking 
for?  A mechanical model of springs and masses like Faraday contrived for 
EM waves?  Lorentz already derived his contraction by considering atoms as 
little particles held in place by EM forces?  Isn't that "model" enough for 
you?

Brent


I'm not sure exactly what I am seeking, but logic alone leaves much to be 
desired in the context of Relativity. Lorentz's model is rarely, if ever, 
mentioned today in any discussion of Relativity, presumably because it's 
wrong, or doesn't adequately provide an explanation for length contraction, 
or possibly because logic is seen as sufficient to explain relativistic 
phenomena (when it does not IMO). As for Quentin's explanation of how many 
worlds come into being, he says they don't, but are always there, as if 
those I am supposed to think come into being at some intersection with its 
numerous different turns possible, were always implicit in the Universal 
WF, which perfectly knows the future? Quentin thinks this is a reasonable 
interpretation of the MWI, when IMO it's just untestable imagination. 
What's your opinion of this latest twist on the MWI, which is supposed to 
appeal to sober individuals? AG

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