On Friday, July 4, 2025 at 7:04:55 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:
On Fri, Jul 4, 2025 at 8:48 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: *> So the Universal WF contains information concerning which turn I will make at an intersection before I make the turn?* *The** universal quantum wave function has information about how you decided to turn left, and information about how you decided to turn right, and information about how you were unable to decide which way was best so you just sat at the intersection until you starved to death; and information about every other thing you could do without violating the laws of physics. * *> So, does it have information about what I might or could do in the future, even if I have no idea what some outcomes are? If so, how could it possibly have such information?* *Those questions have already been answered more than once, and I flat out refuse to answer them yet again. * I suppose I didn't find your arguments convincing, so I fairly promptly forgot them. In the history of physics, or any controversial topic, arguments must be made repeatedly to be finally rejected or accepted. But you don't need to do that, being so sure of yourself. Like I wrote, I don't a-priori reject the hypothesis of many worlds in existence. I just reject Everett's version, which, to the extent I understand it, I find it grossly implausible. I might have a different conclusion if someone could write down this WF, or describe the differential equation which it is solution to. But what I hear just amounts to loose talk about what some people imagine. AG *> If so, is this Super Determinism? AG?* *No. The Big Bang could've started out in an astronomical number of different states and they all result in you turning left and turning right and being unable to decide where to turn. But there is only one initial state the Big Bang could've been in that would result in an experimenter always finding that the Bell, Lettett, and the Leggett-Garg Inequality are all violated even though things exist in one and only one definite state even if they have not been measured. * How is this distinguished from Super Determinism? AG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/0871faaa-9e00-4ce9-9401-8d4150ced7e7n%40googlegroups.com.
