Superdeterminism... only *one* specific history unfold and that one history fools every measurements to conspire against you... MWI read a dictionary about *many* definition.
Quentin All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. (Roy Batty/Rutger Hauer) Le ven. 4 juil. 2025, 15:23, Alan Grayson <[email protected]> a écrit : > > > On Friday, July 4, 2025 at 7:04:55 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2025 at 8:48 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: > > *> So the Universal WF contains information concerning which turn I will > make at an intersection before I make the turn?* > > > *The** universal quantum wave function has information about how you > decided to turn left, and information about how you decided to turn right, > and information about how you were unable to decide which way was best so > you just sat at the intersection until you starved to death; and > information about every other thing you could do without violating the laws > of physics. * > > > *> So, does it have information about what I might or could do in the > future, even if I have no idea what some outcomes are? If so, how could it > possibly have such information?* > > > *Those questions have already been answered more than once, and I flat out > refuse to answer them yet again. * > > > I suppose I didn't find your arguments convincing, so I fairly promptly > forgot them. In the history of physics, or any controversial topic, > arguments must be made repeatedly to be finally rejected or accepted. But > you don't need to do that, being so sure of yourself. Like I wrote, I don't > a-priori reject the hypothesis of many worlds in existence. I just reject > Everett's version, which, to the extent I understand it, I find it grossly > implausible. I might have a different conclusion if someone could write > down this WF, or describe the differential equation which it is solution > to. But what I hear just amounts to loose talk about what some people > imagine. AG > > > > *> If so, is this Super Determinism? AG?* > > > *No. The Big Bang could've started out in an astronomical number of > different states and they all result in you turning left and turning right > and being unable to decide where to turn. But there is only one initial > state the Big Bang could've been in that would result in an experimenter > always finding that the Bell, Lettett, and the Leggett-Garg Inequality are > all violated even though things exist in one and only one definite state > even if they have not been measured. * > > > How is this distinguished from Super Determinism? AG > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/0871faaa-9e00-4ce9-9401-8d4150ced7e7n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/0871faaa-9e00-4ce9-9401-8d4150ced7e7n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAMW2kAqtXG5PjJTM-V5-fknSCzNvM-yqxZkh88%2BpP%3D2Q3uv21g%40mail.gmail.com.
