Le 28-nov.-07, à 09:56, Torgny Tholerus a écrit : > [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: >>> When I talk about "pure mathematics" I mean that kind of mathematics >>> you have in GameOfLife. There you have "gliders" that move in the >>> GameOfLife-universe, and these gliders interact with eachother when >>> they meet. These gliders you can see as physical objects. These >>> physical objects are reducible to pure mathematics, they are the >>> consequences of the rules behind GameOfLife. >>> >> -- >> Torgny >> >> That kind of mathematics - models of cellular automata - is the >> domain of the theory of computation. These are just that - models. >> But there is no reason for thinking that the models or mathematical >> rules are identical to the physical entities themselves just because >> these rules/models can precisely predict/explain the behaviour of the >> physical objects. >> > > You only need models of cellular automata. If you have a model and > rules for that model, then one event will follow after another event, > according to the rules. And after that event will follow another more > event, and so on unlimited. The events will follow after eachother > even if you will not have any implementation of this model. Any > physics is not needed. You don't need any geometric properties. > > In this model you may have a person called Torgny writing a message > on a google group, and that event may be followed by a person called > Marc writing a reply to this message. And you don't need any > implementation of that model.
OK. Do you agree now that the "real Torgny", by which I mean you from your first person point of view, cannot known if it belongs to a state generated by automata 345 or automata 6756, or automata 6756690003121, or automata 65656700234676611084899 , and so one ... Do you agree we have to take into account this first person indeterminacy when making a first person prediction? Bruno http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
