Bruno, In this step, one of me experiences (or actually does not experience) the delay prior to reconstitution. In Step 2, it was proven to me that I cannot know that any extra time (other than the 4 minutes necessary transmission interval) has elapsed between my annihilation and reconstitution on Mars. The same thing will now happen to one of "me" in the duplication-plus-delay in Step 4. Essentially, Step 4 is identical to Step 2 with duplication as the only added feature. We cannot attribute a measure to my 1-pov in either step because the outcome is truly random.
Here I would merely like to ask, random to whom? Doesn't random mean that no conscious mind (mine or yours) can see the determinism behind it? We are tempted to say "probability 1/2" but that is only a comp- style "bet". You explained on this in Step 2: "We see that the MEC hypothesis, generally considered as imposing a strong determinacy in nature, introduces on the contrary a form of strong indeterminacy. Even a God, or whatever possible Omniscient Being, cannot predict to you, before a duplication (of you) experiment, where you will feel to be after. If he told you "you will feel to be the one in room A", the "Kim" in room A will say that such God was right, but the one in room B will know or believe that that God was wrong, and the point of MEC is that we have no reason to listen more to one Kim than to the other Kim. In particular the Kim of room A will not convince the Kim of room B, that "God" was right. No Kim will ever be able to convince its counterpart about any possible method of prediction for the particular future. This does not mean that nothing can be predicted." I want to grok this more. At this stage I can only believe you. I have always felt (with Einstein) that reality is fundamentally deterministic, even if we have to point to stochastic features along the way. I know you will be able to debunk this easily and to my (and Einstein's) satisfaction. Maybe dwell a little on this and then move on to Step 5 where you manage to email me to me. This is truly scary because here I meet "myself". I recall with horror what Angier did about his double in "The Prestige"... Actually, I believe I have already met my double. Once, a man stopped outside my house and stroked my cat, which was on the verandah. I greeted him and he told me that he had a cat that looked exactly like my cat and that it was his dearest and most cherished friend (I feel much the same way about my cat). I then asked him what name he had given his cat. He told me "Cindy Bingy". I think my mouth must have fallen open in shock because that is the name of my cat too. From memory, the man looked rather like me as well. He then walked off while I stood there wondering about the improbability of all this (I cannot remember whether cannabis was in my system at the time) regards, K --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-l...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
