On 9/7/2010 1:48 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
on 07.09.2010 05:11 Rex Allen said the following:
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Brent Meeker
<meeke...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
On 9/6/2010 6:45 PM, Rex Allen wrote:
...
Put a different way:
According to physicalism conscious experience supervenes on quarks
and electrons. Quarks and electrons do not supervene on conscious
experience.
I have just read Vital Dust, The Origin and Evolution of Life on Earth
by Christian de Duve. One citation from the chapter The Future of Life
(p. 271).
"We have reached a crucial state in the history of life. The face of
the Earth has changed dramatically in the last few thousand years, a
mere instant in evolution time, and it is changing ever faster. What
would have taken one thousands generations in the past may now happen
in a single generation. Biological evolution is on a runaway course
toward severe instability.
In a way, our time recalls one of those major breaks in evolution
signaled by massive extinctions. But there is a difference. The cause
of instability is not the impact of a large asteroid or some other
uncontrollable event. The perturbation is from life itself acting
through a species of its own creation, an immensely successful species
filling every corner of the planet with continually growing throngs,
increasingly subjugating and exploiting the world. For the first time,
also, in the history of life, natural selection has been replaced, be
it only partly, by willful intervention on the part of a member of the
bioshperic community. The facts are before us clear and unmistakable.
Everybody can read the message and draw the obvious conclusions."
This means that conscious experience at least changes the movements of
quarks and electrons.
I don't think that follows. Maybe as Rex said, conscious experience
supervenes on the interaction of particles.
Brent
Evgenii
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