Hi Bruno, My thought is to look at the transformation group around which some property is invariant to act as a generator of the properties of the, say, quark. For simple numbers this would be a permutation over fields, one field per number, but this seems to not really resolve the question entirely. It makes me suspicious of the entire Platonic program, for what would act as the universal generator of "twoness" as distinguished from "threeness" be in-itself? Why not some kind of nominalism that transforms asymptotically into universalism? BTW, I really enjoyed reading your SIENA paper. My only comment on it is that I wish you would elaborate more on the diamond^alpha t aspect because that is where plurality obtains.
Onward! Stephen P. King -----Original Message----- From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-l...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruno Marchal Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 4:42 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What's wrong with this? snip The mystery is solved when you understand that consciousness (immaterial) is a necessarily existing inference of machines (immaterial) observing themselves, and that quarks and bombs are their constructs/filtration. Probably the quarks are much common in any Löbian observable (physical) reality, given that they come from quantum phenomena already build by the Löbian machines (infinitely more common in the arithmetical multi-dreams than humans). The only mystery which remains is the qualia of the natural numbers itself, but this one is enough to explain why it is not humanly, nor Löbianly, solvable. So everything, including a mystery, fit together nicely. And consciousness has a role: that reality-inference speed up the processes deepening our histories. The stability and persistence of observable reality needs that consciousness filtration. Bruno http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-l...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.