On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 07:24:02AM -0400, Stephen P. King wrote: > Dear Bruno, > > Could you explain a bit more what the experience of "being > conscious in a completely atemporal mode" was like? Where you aware > of any kind of change in your environment? Was one's internal > narrative (of external events) silent? > > I have always suspected that "subjective time might be a result > of self-consciousness" but have not had any way of discussing the > idea coherently. If we stipulate that "subjective time" is a form of > noticing that one is noticing changes (a second order aspect) in > one's environment, then this would fall into being a result of > self-consciousness (which is obviously a second order effect at > least to me). I have debated this idea before on this List with > Russell Standish but we didn't seem to reach any definite > conclusion. >
Your proposition is basically what my TIME postulate is all about. What Bruno is suggesting is that the smoking of certain plants induces a conscious state that contradicts TIME. I'm not prepared at this stage to follow in his footsteps, so have to simply take his observations (and of others in the Salvia forum) on face value. I do not know how TIME may be modified to reconcile it with this observation, yet remain in place for the deduction of quantum mechanics. Cheers -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.