Hi Bruno Marchal I don't disagree, but anything goal-oriented, like life, human action, or religion, seems pulled by Aristotle's "final causation", while in the world of science, events are driven by the past and effective causation.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 9/12/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so that everything could function." ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-11, 13:39:54 Subject: Re: victims of faith On 11 Sep 2012, at 13:54, Roger Clough wrote: Hi meekerdb Science is science and religion is religion and never the two shall meet. Science is a tool. Religion is the goal. I would say. If you separate them, it is like cutting the corpus callosum between the analytical and intuitive hemisphere, it is like separating the soul from the body, it is like cutting the first person Bp & p into Bp and p again, it is like separating the yin and the yang, 0 and 1, ... You will get unreligious and senseless technology for science, and insane human perspectives for religion. So, here, if you don't mind, I beg to differ. Science is just trying to figure out what is. You condemn religion to nonsense, if you disallow science to help in the spiritual inquiry. Only bad faith needs blind sciences. Science only ask question, really. It is because we have separated science from religion that some people become "religious" without knowing, and believe that science can answer fundamental question. Bruno Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 9/11/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so that everything could function." ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: meekerdb Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-10, 16:02:09 Subject: Re: victims of faith On 9/10/2012 12:50 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: This paper of an evolutionist scientific denounces the mytification of Darwin, the spread of false claims that enhance his figure and even the creation of a physical temple around these myths. http://www.epjournal.net/wp-content/uploads/ep055269.pdf So when will be treated to papers by Christians de-mythifying Jesus and papers by Muslims de-mythifying Muhammed? Maybe science and religion really are different. Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.