Roger: right
But there are two types of people: the ones that know that believe,
that know that they are unfounded and the others that believe that
known, who donĀ“t know that they are unfounded

2012/9/14 Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net>:
> Hi Alberto G. Corona
>
> All religious beliefs are at the bottom unfounded.
> So is the fact that you are real unfounded.
> All scientific theories moreover are founded on assumptions,
>      which by definition are unfounded.
>
> Need I go on ?
>
>
>
> Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
> 9/14/2012
> Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him
> so that everything could function."
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> Time: 2012-09-13, 14:45:42
> Subject: Re: victims of faith
>
>
> 2012/9/13 Stathis Papaioannou :
>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Alberto G. Corona  wrote:
>>> There is no difference at all between religious mitifications and other
>>> mitifucatuons . See form, example the paper about Darwin that I posted.
>>> religion is a label that appears when the mith is old enough it has enough
>>> believers and the object of mitification is far away in time.
>>>
>>> People are reluctant to admit that they have unfounded beliefs. Specially if
>>> they have been educated in the belief that any belief is bad and into the
>>> belied that they have no beliefs. But to have a commong ground of beliefs is
>>> a prerequisite for individual and social life. I think that my theory of
>>> social capital, mytopoesis and belief and the assimilaion of good and truth
>>> is sound in evolutuionary terms, and provides a factual/operation definition
>>> of Truth in the world of the mind, which is the only world accesible to us.
>>
>> If I tell you that a spirit appeared to me last night and told me that
>> you should give me all your money or else the world will be destroyed,
>> what will you say to me? That it's as true as any other myth,
>> understandable in evolutionary terms, on a par with scientific fact?
>> Or will you just say, without thinking too hard, that it's bullshit?
>>
> I suppose that you mean that there are histories that everyone would
> identify as bullshit. Well, this changes nothing. A myth by definition
> is something believed by a group of people in the past. Most of them
> as intelligent or more that you and me . You and me believe in things
> that will be myths tomorrow. Most of them created by scientists. The
> mith of antropogenic global warming, the myth of cultural determinism
> for example.. There are many things that were "scientific" in the past
> "race studies" for example. Now there are "gender studies"... they
> were, and they are scientific and bullshit at the same time. I hope
> that this is clarifying.
>>
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