Hi Alberto G. Corona That's why I stick to orthodoxy and the creeds. Hard to go wrong that way.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 9/14/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so that everything could function." ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Alberto G. Corona Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-14, 07:27:26 Subject: Re: Re: victims of faith Roger: right But there are two types of people: the ones that know that believe, that know that they are unfounded and the others that believe that known, who don? know that they are unfounded 2012/9/14 Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net>: > Hi Alberto G. Corona > > All religious beliefs are at the bottom unfounded. > So is the fact that you are real unfounded. > All scientific theories moreover are founded on assumptions, > which by definition are unfounded. > > Need I go on ? > > > > Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net > 9/14/2012 > Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him > so that everything could function." > ----- Receiving the following content ----- > From: Alberto G. Corona > Receiver: everything-list > Time: 2012-09-13, 14:45:42 > Subject: Re: victims of faith > > > 2012/9/13 Stathis Papaioannou : >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: >>> There is no difference at all between religious mitifications and other >>> mitifucatuons . See form, example the paper about Darwin that I posted. >>> religion is a label that appears when the mith is old enough it has enough >>> believers and the object of mitification is far away in time. >>> >>> People are reluctant to admit that they have unfounded beliefs. Specially if >>> they have been educated in the belief that any belief is bad and into the >>> belied that they have no beliefs. But to have a commong ground of beliefs is >>> a prerequisite for individual and social life. I think that my theory of >>> social capital, mytopoesis and belief and the assimilaion of good and truth >>> is sound in evolutuionary terms, and provides a factual/operation definition >>> of Truth in the world of the mind, which is the only world accesible to us. >> >> If I tell you that a spirit appeared to me last night and told me that >> you should give me all your money or else the world will be destroyed, >> what will you say to me? That it's as true as any other myth, >> understandable in evolutionary terms, on a par with scientific fact? >> Or will you just say, without thinking too hard, that it's bullshit? >> > I suppose that you mean that there are histories that everyone would > identify as bullshit. Well, this changes nothing. A myth by definition > is something believed by a group of people in the past. Most of them > as intelligent or more that you and me . You and me believe in things > that will be myths tomorrow. Most of them created by scientists. The > mith of antropogenic global warming, the myth of cultural determinism > for example.. There are many things that were "scientific" in the past > "race studies" for example. Now there are "gender studies"... they > were, and they are scientific and bullshit at the same time. I hope > that this is clarifying. >> >> -- >> Stathis Papaioannou >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
