Hi Richard Ruquist Another drive-by shooting. Just an unsupported denial and you speed off. How can you be taken seriously ?
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 9/17/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so that everything could function." ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Richard Ruquist Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-15, 12:03:08 Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: the "nothing but" fallacy. Nonesense On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote: > Hi Richard Ruquist > > He was talking about the 10 commandments. > He fulfilled them with his death and res. > > > Jesus did away for example with the dietary laws when > he said that it is not what a man puts into his mouth > that can make him unclean, it is what comes out of it. > > > Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net > 9/15/2012 > Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him > so that everything could function." > > ----- Receiving the following content ----- > From: Richard Ruquist > Receiver: everything-list > Time: 2012-09-15, 08:08:22 > Subject: Re: Re: Re: the "nothing but" fallacy. > > Jesus did not do away with any OT laws. > He said so explicitly in the Sermon on the Mount. > > Matthew 5: > [17] "Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; > I have come not to abolish them but to fulfil them. > [18] For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an > iota, not a dot, will pass from the law until all is accomplished. > [19] Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and > teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he > who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of > heaven." > > Roger, are you one of the least? > Richard > > On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 7:22 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote: >> Hi John Clark >> >> 1)Intelligence ? I don't think the word was available back then (Bible >> days). >> Russell also hadn't a clue (he admitted) as to the meaning of pragmatism. >> On the other hand, Proverbs says, "Fear of God is beginning of >> wisdom (or knowledge)." >> >> 2) To understand the Bible you have to read it as a little child, >> not a shark. >> >> 3) Those slaughter statements are mostly based on the old jewish >> laws in leviticus and numbers. Jesus did away with them. >> But God did order a few massacres. The forgiveness of Jesus >> also did away with the need for them. >> >> The Old Testament is the problem. >> The New Testament is the solution. >> >> Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net >> 9/15/2012 >> Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him >> so that everything could function." >> ----- Receiving the following content ----- >> From: John Clark >> Receiver: everything-list >> Time: 2012-09-14, 15:32:46 >> Subject: Re: Re: the "nothing but" fallacy. >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Roger Clough wrote: >> >> >>> You're a slow learner. >> >> Maybe, but I'm smarter than the people in the Bible. As Bertrand Russell >> said "So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in >> praise of intelligence." >> >> >>> Bible stories are generally based on true happenings. >> >> >> Do you believe that the stories in Mother Goose are generally based on >> true happenings too? I know there are no reasons to believe either one but >> faith don't need no education, or reasons. >> >> >> >>> Science deals with facts, religion deals with values. >> >> >> Values? One of the best ways to become a atheist is to actually read the >> Bible, so let's go directly to the source and read some quotations from the >> Bible and see some of those wonderful values that it teaches: >> >> Take all the heads of the people and hang them up before the Lord against >> the sun. >> Numbers 25:4 >> >> The LORD slew all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both the firstborn >> of man, and the firstborn of beast. >> Exodus 13:15 >> >> Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers. >> Isaiah 14:21 >> >> And the priest shall dip his finger in some of the blood, and sprinkle it >> seven times before the LORD. >> Leviticus 4:17 >> >> And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters >> shall ye eat. >> Leviticus 26:29 >> >> Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the >> sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle >> thereof, with the edge of the sword. >> Deuteronomy 13:15 >> >> Thus saith the LORD of hosts ... go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy >> all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant >> and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.? >> 1 Samuel 15:2-3 >> >> Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray >> you, bring them out unto you, an do ye to them as is good in your eyes. >> Genesis 19:8 >> >> And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her >> .... Thou shalt go in unto her. Deuteronomy 21:11-13 >> >> The LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, >> above all people that are upon the face of the earth. >> Deuteronomy 7:6 >> >> I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your >> children. >> Leviticus 26:22 >> >> And I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of >> their daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his friend. >> Jeremiah 19:9 >> >> For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to >> death. >> Leviticus 20:9 >> >> The Lord is a man of War. >> Exodus 15:3 >> >> Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the >> stones.? >> Psalms 137:9 >> >> People lamented because the Lord had smitten many people in a great >> slaughter. >> 1Samuel 6:19 >> >> Smite through the loins of them that rise against him...that they rise not >> again. >> Deuteronomy 33:11 >> >> And thou shalt eat the fruit of? thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and >> of thy daughters, which the Lord thy God hath given thee. >> Deuteronomy 28:53 >> >> ? 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