I was waiting for your reply. Alas, Jesus was a Jew and Jews have 613 commandments, not just 10. Insults do not help your argument.
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote: > Hi Richard Ruquist > > Another drive-by shooting. Just an unsupported denial > and you speed off. How can you be taken seriously ? > > > Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net > 9/17/2012 > Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him > so that everything could function." > > ----- Receiving the following content ----- > From: Richard Ruquist > Receiver: everything-list > Time: 2012-09-15, 12:03:08 > Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: the "nothing but" fallacy. > > Nonesense > > On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote: >> Hi Richard Ruquist >> >> He was talking about the 10 commandments. >> He fulfilled them with his death and res. >> >> >> Jesus did away for example with the dietary laws when >> he said that it is not what a man puts into his mouth >> that can make him unclean, it is what comes out of it. >> >> >> Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net >> 9/15/2012 >> Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him >> so that everything could function." >> >> ----- Receiving the following content ----- >> From: Richard Ruquist >> Receiver: everything-list >> Time: 2012-09-15, 08:08:22 >> Subject: Re: Re: Re: the "nothing but" fallacy. >> >> Jesus did not do away with any OT laws. >> He said so explicitly in the Sermon on the Mount. >> >> Matthew 5: >> [17] "Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; >> I have come not to abolish them but to fulfil them. >> [18] For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an >> iota, not a dot, will pass from the law until all is accomplished. >> [19] Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and >> teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he >> who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of >> heaven." >> >> Roger, are you one of the least? >> Richard >> >> On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 7:22 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote: >>> Hi John Clark >>> >>> 1)Intelligence ? I don't think the word was available back then (Bible >>> days). >>> Russell also hadn't a clue (he admitted) as to the meaning of pragmatism. >>> On the other hand, Proverbs says, "Fear of God is beginning of >>> wisdom (or knowledge)." >>> >>> 2) To understand the Bible you have to read it as a little child, >>> not a shark. >>> >>> 3) Those slaughter statements are mostly based on the old jewish >>> laws in leviticus and numbers. Jesus did away with them. >>> But God did order a few massacres. The forgiveness of Jesus >>> also did away with the need for them. >>> >>> The Old Testament is the problem. >>> The New Testament is the solution. >>> >>> Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net >>> 9/15/2012 >>> Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him >>> so that everything could function." >>> ----- Receiving the following content ----- >>> From: John Clark >>> Receiver: everything-list >>> Time: 2012-09-14, 15:32:46 >>> Subject: Re: Re: the "nothing but" fallacy. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Roger Clough wrote: >>> >>> >>>> You're a slow learner. >>> >>> Maybe, but I'm smarter than the people in the Bible. As Bertrand Russell >>> said "So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in >>> praise of intelligence." >>> >>> >>>> Bible stories are generally based on true happenings. >>> >>> >>> Do you believe that the stories in Mother Goose are generally based on >>> true happenings too? I know there are no reasons to believe either one >>> but >>> faith don't need no education, or reasons. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Science deals with facts, religion deals with values. >>> >>> >>> Values? One of the best ways to become a atheist is to actually read the >>> Bible, so let's go directly to the source and read some quotations from >>> the >>> Bible and see some of those wonderful values that it teaches: >>> >>> Take all the heads of the people and hang them up before the Lord against >>> the sun. >>> Numbers 25:4 >>> >>> The LORD slew all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both the firstborn >>> of man, and the firstborn of beast. >>> Exodus 13:15 >>> >>> Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers. >>> Isaiah 14:21 >>> >>> And the priest shall dip his finger in some of the blood, and sprinkle it >>> seven times before the LORD. >>> Leviticus 4:17 >>> >>> And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters >>> shall ye eat. >>> Leviticus 26:29 >>> >>> Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the >>> sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle >>> thereof, with the edge of the sword. >>> Deuteronomy 13:15 >>> >>> Thus saith the LORD of hosts ... go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy >>> all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, >>> infant >>> and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.? >>> 1 Samuel 15:2-3 >>> >>> Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray >>> you, bring them out unto you, an do ye to them as is good in your eyes. >>> Genesis 19:8 >>> >>> And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto >>> her >>> .... Thou shalt go in unto her. Deuteronomy 21:11-13 >>> >>> The LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, >>> above all people that are upon the face of the earth. >>> Deuteronomy 7:6 >>> >>> I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your >>> children. >>> Leviticus 26:22 >>> >>> And I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of >>> their daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his friend. >>> Jeremiah 19:9 >>> >>> For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put >>> to >>> death. >>> Leviticus 20:9 >>> >>> The Lord is a man of War. >>> Exodus 15:3 >>> >>> Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the >>> stones.? >>> Psalms 137:9 >>> >>> People lamented because the Lord had smitten many people in a great >>> slaughter. >>> 1Samuel 6:19 >>> >>> Smite through the loins of them that rise against him...that they rise >>> not >>> again. >>> Deuteronomy 33:11 >>> >>> And thou shalt eat the fruit of? thine own body, the flesh of thy sons >>> and >>> of thy daughters, which the Lord thy God hath given thee. >>> Deuteronomy 28:53 >>> >>> ? 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