Hi Bruno Marchal If comp is assumed, then we need not worry about consequences of emulation, it's a given that it works.
Then what is the purpose of this discussion ? ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-02-05, 07:32:01 Subject: Re: context, comp, and multiverses Hi Roger, On 04 Feb 2013, at 16:43, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Brunio, I agree with Craig. And I've never understood how there can be any consequence of an emulation, or how it can be proven or not that comp works, since no comparison can be made. If comp is true, then we can explain why we cannot prove it. But we can refute it, because comp explains the details about what the physical reality can be. So to test comp, just compare the physics inferred from the emprical reality, and the comp physics. Without meaning to be insulting, in short, I say, OK, it's Turing emulable. So what ? So the TOE is given by addition and multiplication on the integers, and the global internal views of all creatures is given by Plato and Plotinus, not by Aristotle and the naturalists. It means that rational theology is wrong since the closure of Plato academy. In a nutshell. Of course you have to study UDA to grasp this. Bruno ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Telmo Menezes Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-02-04, 09:59:09 Subject: Re: context, comp, and multiverses On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com> wrote: On Sunday, February 3, 2013 12:11:17 PM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 01 Feb 2013, at 16:42, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal I would think that each universe provides its own distinctive context to any?alculation, including comp. Comp is the assumption that we are Turing emulable. That notion is made very solid by Church's thesis. I don't think that we can assume that a Turing emulation of us is actually "us". To the contrary, a Turing emulation of geometry is not geometry. A Turing emulation of water can be the same as a Turing emulation of water in another Turing emulated virtual world, but no emulated drop of Turing water can ever be a genuine drop of water within the world that we actually live in. It doesn't matter that 17 is still prime when you are dying of dehydration. Hi Craig, Still trying to understand your theory better. What's your position on the following statements: - The human brain can be Turing emulated. - There is some (possibly mysterious) link between the physical human brain and consciousness. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ____________________________________________ DreamMail - New experience in email software www.dreammail.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
