The learned men  confuse the mathematical tools with the
physical reality and therefore we have math-physical  fairy-tales.
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On Feb 14, 5:39 pm, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
> On 14 Feb 2013, at 08:48, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
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> >     Euler's Equation and the Reality of Nature.
> > =.
> > Mr. Dexter Sinister  wrote:
> > ‘ I understand Euler's Identity,
> > and I know what it means, and I know how to prove it,
> > there's nothing particularly mystical about it,
> > it just demonstrates that exponential, trigonometric,
> > and complex functions are related.
> > Given what we know of mathematics it shouldn't surprise
> > anyone that its various bits are connected.
> > It would be much more surprising if they weren't, that would
> > almost certainly mean something was badly wrong somewhere.’
>
> >    Mr. Gary wrote:
> > Mathematics is NOT science.
> > Science is knowledge of the REAL world.
> > Mathematics is an invention of the mind.
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> This is of course false in the comp theory.
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> It is also intuitively false for most mathematicians.
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> It is usually asserted by people confusing the mathematical tools,
> that we invent indeed, and the mathematical reality, which is really a
> sequence of surprising facts, that we discover.
>
> The use of "REAL world" is dogmatic physicalism. It proposes as a fact
> what is a theological or metaphysical hypothesis, and this condemns
> any attempt to be rigorous on the subject. It is as bad as using "God"
> as a gap explanation. It is the same mistake.
>
> Bruno
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> > Many aspects of mathematics have found application
> > in the real world, but there is no guarantee.
> > Any correlation must meet the ultimate test:
> > does it explain something about the real world?
> > As an electrical engineer I used the generalized
> > Euler's equation all the time in circuit analysis:
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> > exp(j*theta) = cos(theta) + j*sin(theta).
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> > So it works at that particular level in electricity.
> > Does it work at other levels, too?
> > Logic cannot prove it.
> > It must be determined by experiment, not by philosophizing.
> > ====..
> > Thinking about theirs posts I wrote brief article:
> >       Euler's Equation and Reality.
> > =.
> > a)
> > Euler's Equation as a mathematical reality.
> > Euler's identity is "the gold standard for mathematical beauty'.
> > Euler's identity is "the most famous formula in all mathematics".
> > ‘ . . . this equation is the mathematical analogue of  Leonardo
> > da Vinci’s Mona Lisa painting or Michelangelo’s statue of David’
> > ‘It  is God’s equation.’, ‘ It is a mathematical icon.’
> > . . . .  etc.
> > b)
> > Euler's Equation as a physical reality.
> > "it is absolutely paradoxical; we cannot understand it,
> > and we don't know what it means, .  . . . .’
> > ‘ Euler's Equation reaches down into the very depths of existence’
> > ‘ Is Euler's Equation about fundamental matters?’
> > ‘It would be nice to understand Euler's Identity as a physical process
> > using physics.‘
> > ‘ Is it possible to unite Euler's Identity with physics, quantum
> > physics ?’
> > ==.
> > My aim is to understand the reality of nature.
> > Can Euler's equation explain me something about reality?
> > To give the answer to this question I need to bind
> > Euler's equation with an object - particle.
> > Can it  be math- point or string- particle or triangle-particle?
> > No, Euler's formula has quantity (pi) which says me that
> > the particle must be only a circle .
> > Now I want to understand the behavior of circle - particle and
> > therefore I need to use spatial relativity and quantum theories.
> > These two theories say me that the reason of circle – particle’s
> > movement  is its own inner impulse (h) or  (h*=h/2pi).
> > a)
> > Using  its own inner impulse (h) circle - particle moves
> > ( as a wheel) in a straight line with constant speed c = 1.
> > We call such particle - ‘photon’.
> > From Earth – gravity point of view this speed is maximally.
> > From Vacuum point of view this speed is minimally.
> > In this movement quantum of light behave as a corpuscular (no charge).
> > b)
> > Using  its own inner impulse / intrinsic angular momentum
> > ( h* = h / 2pi ) circle - particle  rotates around its axis.
> >  In such movement particle has charge, produce electric waves
> > ( waves property of particle) and its speed ( frequency) is :  c>1.
> > We call such particle - ‘ electron’  and its  energy is:  E=h*f.
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> > In this way I (as a peasant ) can understand the reality of nature.
> > ==.
> > I reread my post.
> > My God, that is a naïve peasant's explanation.
> > It is absolutely not scientific, not professor's explanation.
> > Would a learned man adopt such simple and naive explanation?
> > Hmm,  . . .   problem.
> > In any way, even Mr. Dexter Sinister  and Mr. Gary
> > wouldn't agree with me, I want to say them
> > ' Thank you for emails and cooperation’
> > =.
> > Best wishes.
> > Israel Sadovnik  Socratus.
> > =.
> > P.S.
> > ' They would play a greater and greater role in mathematics –
> > and then, with the advent of quantum mechanics in the twentieth
> > century, in physics and engineering and any field that deals with
> > cyclical phenomena such as waves that can be represented by
> > complex numbers. For a complex number allows you to represent
> > two processes such as phase and wavelenght simultaneously –
> > and a complex exponential allows you to map a straight line
> > onto a circle in a complex plane.'
>
> >   /   Book:  The great equations.  Chapter four.
> > The gold standard for mathematical beauty.
> > Euler’s equation.   Page 104. /
>
> > #
> > Euler's e-iPi+1=0 is an amazing equation, not in-and-of itself,
> > but because it sharply points to our utter ignorance of the
> > simplest mathematical and scientific fundamentals.
> > The equation means that in flat Euclidean space, e and Pi happen
> > to have their particular values to satisfy any equation that relates
> > their mathematical constructs. In curved space, e and Pi vary.
> >   / Rasulkhozha S. Sharafiddinov . /
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