On 09 Jul 2013, at 20:57, John Clark wrote:

On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:

> Many people, and dictionaries, confuse agnosticism="that whether or not God exists is unknown" with agnosticism="that whether or not God exists is impossible to know".

If God created the universe

But is there a universe? I see only a physical reality.





that would be a fact about physics that would be very interesting to know, and I see no reason in principle we couldn't detect it;

If there was a God creating a Universe, he might be unable to belong to its creation, a bit like the set of all set is not a set. But I am a super-atheist with respect to such idea. I have no evidence for *such* a god, nor such a creation.




and if He was constantly tinkering with His creation as many think then He would be even easier to detect. But we see nothing.

I keep stuck with one (very special) notion of god.

Bruno





> I agree with Sam Harris that "atheist" is not a very useful appellation because it only describes someone in contrast to "theist".

That makes no sense. The word "nonfiction" is useful but it only describes something in contrast to "fiction".

  John K Clark


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