On 22 Oct 2013, at 23:48, Jason Resch wrote:
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 3:42 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net>
wrote:
On 10/22/2013 9:52 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 11:38 AM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net>
wrote:
On 10/22/2013 1:09 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
If it's simply a set of experiences, then it can't "choose to
simulate" anything.
The mind has the tools available to generate any experience it
wants, somewhat like a lucid dream but one where you exercise
complete control over everything in that dream and thus can steer
it wherever you want it to go.
Again that falls into inconsistency. WHO is exercising complete
control??
I don't see what you find inconsistent about controlling our future
experiences. You decide to get make cup of coffee in the morning,
and a few experiences later you are drinking a cup of coffee. A
super-intelligent machine with access to the appropriate technology
is just putting into practice self-determination to the extreme.
If a person is a sequence of exepriences, there is no "who".
Why isn't there a who? Isn't the who the person?
I'd say the brain - but that's because I don't believe a person is
nothing but a sequence of experiences.
All this time I thought you were operating under the definition that
a person is a set of experiences, therefore all of my answers were
geared toward conforming to that definition. I see now why there
has been so much confusion. To clarify, I do not think experiences
are the fundamental (lowest level of explanation for) reality,
Good. I was waiting for your precision on this. I don't think you ever
pretended the contrary.
and also I would say a person is more than the set of experiences
that might be ascribed to them, though a person is something to
which experience can be ascribed.
OK.
To invalidate John Clark's comment on step 3, there is no need of a
precise definition of person, as the first/third person distinction
done there is enough for the reasoning.
Likewise, there is no need of some deep notion of personal identity.
We don't need more than what we need to say that we hope to survive
with a digital brain, or to say that we hope to survive drinking a cup
of coffee or whatever.
Bruno
Jason
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