This is strange! What 'theism' it is if it limits God? We believe that God is 
the Reality, the Prime Originator, the Sustainer, and the Final Goal. 
Everything is as God wills and allows it to be. 

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On 02-Dec-2013, at 4:13 AM, Jesse Mazer <laserma...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Most theistic philosophers and theologians who have considered the issue 
> agree that God did not create the laws of math and logic, and does not have 
> the power to alter them (or any other "necessary" truths, which for theists 
> might include things like moral rules, or qualities of God such as 
> omnipotence). Do you think the Mandelbrot set, or any other piece of pure 
> mathematics, functions without a government, or are mathematical rules 
> themselves a form of government even if God didn't create them? Certainly 
> most atheists now think the universe follows mathematical laws, and one could 
> even adopt Max Tegmark's idea and speculate that our universe is just another 
> part of the uncreated Platonic realm of mathematical forms.
> 
> 
> On Sunday, December 1, 2013, Roger Clough wrote:
>> How can a grown man be an atheist ?
>>  
>> An atheist is a person who believes that the universe can
>> function without some form of government. 
>>  
>> How silly.
>>  
>>  
>> Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.)  [1/1/2000]
>> See my Leibniz site at
>> http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough
>> 
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