I agree that God is consistent. In my understanding, God is perfect in every possible meaning of the word. I was objecting to the assertion below that 'Most theistic philosophers and theologians who have considered the issue agree that God did not create the laws of math and logic, and does not have the power to alter them (or any other "necessary" truths, ...'
Samiya Sent from my iPhone On 02-Dec-2013, at 3:01 PM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: > > On 02 Dec 2013, at 06:11, Samiya Illias wrote: > >> This is strange! What 'theism' it is if it limits God? > > Making It consistent is not really limiting it. > Accepting the idea that God can be inconsistent quickly leads to inconsistent > theology, which is the fuel of atheism. > (that is why atheists defends all the time the most inconsistent notion of > God, and deter people to search by themselves in the field). > > > >> We believe that God is the Reality, the Prime Originator, the Sustainer, and >> the Final Goal. > > OK. > > > >> Everything is as God wills and allows it to be. > > I don't know. > > Bruno > > > > >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 02-Dec-2013, at 4:13 AM, Jesse Mazer <laserma...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Most theistic philosophers and theologians who have considered the issue >>> agree that God did not create the laws of math and logic, and does not have >>> the power to alter them (or any other "necessary" truths, which for theists >>> might include things like moral rules, or qualities of God such as >>> omnipotence). Do you think the Mandelbrot set, or any other piece of pure >>> mathematics, functions without a government, or are mathematical rules >>> themselves a form of government even if God didn't create them? Certainly >>> most atheists now think the universe follows mathematical laws, and one >>> could even adopt Max Tegmark's idea and speculate that our universe is just >>> another part of the uncreated Platonic realm of mathematical forms. >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, December 1, 2013, Roger Clough wrote: >>>> How can a grown man be an atheist ? >>>> >>>> An atheist is a person who believes that the universe can >>>> function without some form of government. >>>> >>>> How silly. >>>> >>>> >>>> Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] >>>> See my Leibniz site at >>>> http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus >>>> protection is active. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "Everything List" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
