Two more remarks:

I´m astonished  contemplating how people can contemplate with horror the
belief in a god that they thing that it does not exist and accept the
belief in worldly lies and praise completely invented myths about their
favorite heroes Even if they know that are false. That Kim Jon Il wrote a
mean of tree books a day is incredible for them but there are equally
fantastic histories and Myths widely believed that would make Chesterton
crap up.

The wishfulthinker fall in tears when pronouncing his sacred capitalized
worlds: People, Democracy, Equalty Human Rights and so on. In the past,
Socialism, Worker Class and such craps motivated the same heart lifts.
Today even the Terrorists invoke what they call Democracy with passion.

But in his country, like in any other, the same families alternate in
government, with a few exceptions, no matter the kind or regime and the
political party. All are equals except that some are more equal than
others. Perhaps things are closer to the Ancient Regime rather than to the
myths of his utopic society.  The more the utopics are in power, the more
the ancient regime (that they had in the imagination) returns.  Perhaps all
such elevated concepts are not part of the reality but ideological
constructions and their most known advocates, just power seekers that may
deserve the worship of the wishfulthinkers?

I repeat the cult of men to men is the most primitive and dangerous
religion. And RELIGION CAN NOT BE AVOIDED: you can not live without a form
of religion or religions like you can not live alone.


2013/12/1 Alberto G. Corona <agocor...@gmail.com>

> Government by the Rule of Law (of physics) I would say.
>
> There is much much in the relation between the republican idea of society,
>  and pragmatical atheism of the contractualists Hobbes, rousseau, Locke
> (let the state work without religion), that later became ideological
> (atheism is the religion of the state).
>
> The idea of ruling society by laws was probably inspired by newtonian
> phisics (but not by newtonian theology) and the market economy. what is
> initially science or experience can become a myth that organize a society.
>
> But this gobernment by rules is a hopeful ideal. In other words, a myth.
> But a myth necessary for the state religion. Whenever there are laws there
> is a sovereingh lawyers. "The people" in "democracy" is such lawyer say the
> modern wishfulthinker. That is nothing but another two myths. hypostases,
> something that does not exist bu in the mind by an effort of faith for the
> purpose of social cooperation.
>
> So to summarize, the human mind can not live withouth myths. If he reject
> the given ones, he invent its own.
>
>
>
>
> 2013/12/1 LizR <lizj...@gmail.com>
>
>> Because there are no obvious signs of government in the universe, I would
>> say.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2 December 2013 10:29, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>  How can a grown man be an atheist ?
>>>
>>> An atheist is a person who believes that the universe can
>>> function without some form of government.
>>>
>>> How silly.
>>>
>>>
>>>  Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]
>>> See my Leibniz site at
>>>  http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough
>>>
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