On 06 Dec 2013, at 13:59, Richard Ruquist wrote:
On 05 Dec 2013, at 21:56, Richard Ruquist wrote:
Well John not you nor I are believers in QI
but there seem to be plenty on this list.
Bruno: Can you refute comp-I?
In which theory?
In comp, comp_i is a theorem, or meta-theorem. The amoeba can prove
that IF she survives 24h, then she is in principle immortal.
I can't, even without the step 8.
Richard: I do not have to since it is a matter of belief.
OK. But many believe that comp is the theory of the materialist and of
those who believe in mortality. Once we accept mechanism, it becomes a
huge complex problem.
I do not believe that universes split or that quantum immortality is
an option.
"I" don't believe in any universe.
That's why I say QI is a religion.
QM is a religion. QI is a theorem, or meta-theorem in QM.
Of course I also say science can be a religion,
my religion.
Once you believe a theory applies to something, you do a religious
act, in the comp sense of attributing truth or meaning to
(syntactical, reperesented) belief. OK.
Bruno
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 4:03 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be>
wrote:
On 05 Dec 2013, at 21:56, Richard Ruquist wrote:
Well John not you nor I are believers in QI
but there seem to be plenty on this list.
Can you refute comp-I?
I can't, even without the step 8.
Bruno
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:51 PM, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Richard Ruquist <yann...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Who can tell me that quantum immortality is not religion.
I can. The defining characteristic of religious people is being
seldom correct but always certain, and so quantum immortality is
not a religion because I'm far from certain, I don't know that it's
true and I don't know that it's untrue. Technically I'd have to say
the same about the existence of God, but the probability that the
Christian or Muslim God exists is, although nonzero, too low to
worry about. I would guess that the probability quantum immortality
exists is low, although vastly greater than the probability of
God's existence. I don't know what the probability that my
probability estimate is correct, probably pretty low.
John K Clark
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