On 22 Dec 2013, at 21:10, Edgar Owen wrote:
All,
The question of whether God exists is meaningless without first
giving some definition of what is meant by God, of how God is
defined. Otherwise everyone is talking about different things and
nothing will go anywhere.
If you need a God there is only one possible rational definition and
that is to just define God as the universe itself.
The physical universe? the mathematical universe, the arithmetical
universe?
First there is now absolute certainty that God does exist
In the comp theory, the physical universe is not the "origin". It
"emanates" from something else.
(all the interminable meaningless arguments vanish), and second his
attributes now become the proper subject matter of science and
reason rather than ideology, faith or myth.
Only if you are aware that the "physical universe appearance" is
either an assumption, or a theorem.
But most certainly the dogmas of all the organized religions are all
atavistic myths in the same category as Zeus and Odin which, like
them, should have been discarded millennia ago....
I have less problem with fairy tales dogma (not taken seriously by any
scientists), and the naturalist dogma, which are harder to fight with,
as they are more deeply hardwired in our brains than the fairy tales.
But for many people, the existence of a primitive universe is just a
dogma. They can't doubt it. Can you?
Bruno
Edgar
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