On 25 Dec 2013, at 07:29, Samiya Illias wrote:
Why not define God as the Creator and Sustainer of the Universe and
Everything Else that is or may exist?
With comp, this will be non distinguishable from arithmetical truth. I
am OK with that definition, but from the machine's first person point
of view, there will still be a difference. God = arithmetical truth,
if true, is a secret of God.
All we can say is that IF comp is true, THEN "possibly (God =
arithmetical truth)", but the machine cannot believe or justify this,.
This is a bit like it is true that Bp and (Bp & p) proves the same
arithmetical propositions, but the machine cannot justify this, as the
machine cannot confuse its 1p (related to "arithmetical truth") with
any 3p description.
Bruno
On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 4:20 AM, <spudboy...@aol.com> wrote:
Pantheism, Why didn't you just come out and say so? :-D
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From: Edgar Owen <edgaro...@att.net>
To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: 24-Dec-2013 13:16:11 +0000
Subject: God or not?
All,
The question of whether God exists is meaningless without first
giving some
definition of what is meant by God, of how God is defined. Otherwise
everyone is
talking about different things and nothing will go anywhere.
If you need a God there is only one possible rational definition and
that is to
just define God as the universe itself. First there is now absolute
certainty
that God does exist (all the interminable meaningless arguments
vanish), and
second his attributes now become the proper subject matter of
science and reason
rather than ideology, faith or myth.
But most certainly the dogmas of all the organized religions are all
atavistic
myths in the same category as Zeus and Odin which, like them, should
have been
discarded millennia ago....
Edgar
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