On 12/26/2013 4:25 AM, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
Spudboy,

There is no observer in the usual sense of a human observer needed for quantum events. But in effect every participant in a quantum event acts as an observer of that event.

In fact you don't even need any participants, not even instrumental ones:

Decoherence of matter waves by thermal emission of radiation, 
arXiv:quant-ph/040214v1

Brent
P.S. Edgar, I notice that when you post a reply it includes your prior post, as though you're replying to yourself (see below). But it doesn't include anyone else's comments, which are actually what you're replying to. If you know how, it would be good to change that so we could see what exactly you're replying to.



The theory of decoherence has rightfully superseded the old mistaken notion of an observer 'causing' a wavefunction collapse, if that's what you are referring to.

Edgar




On Wednesday, December 25, 2013 11:52:10 AM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote:

    All,

    ST=spacetime, c=speed of light, thus STc Principle.

    To answer some of Jason's questions. Block time is wrong. Only the common 
present
    moment exists. All the comments Jason makes refer only to differences in 
clock times
    which are well known, but the important point is that all those differences 
in clock
    time occur in the SAME common present moment.. I find it difficult to 
understand why
    so many people can't get their minds around the difference which proves 
there are
    two distinct kinds of time.

    The past exists only as inferences from the present as to what states would 
have
    resulted in the present according to the currently known laws of physics. 
Therefore
    the past is actually determined by the present state of reality from the 
perspective
    of the present which is the only valid perspective. Therefore the logical 
network of
    past and present is absolute 100% exact and could not have been different 
in even
    the slightest detail. The actual currently state of the universe falsifies 
the very
    possibility of other pasts. This is another difficult concept for many.

    Only the future is probabilistic because it does not yet exist and has 
never been
    computed. But the past - present logical state has been actually computed 
and thus
    is completely deterministic now that it exists and it could not have been 
different
    in any minute detail at all.

    This solves the problem of the original fine tuning. Given the current 
state of
    reality which is all that exists, all other conceivable fine tunings are 
impossible.
    This is what I call the 'Super Anthropic Principle', and it negates the 
necessity
    and probably the actuality of postulating any multiverses and strongly 
implies our
    observable universe is most probably the only one that exists.

    Edgar


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