On 31 Dec 2013, at 03:09, LizR wrote:

On 31 December 2013 07:44, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
On 12/30/2013 2:07 AM, LizR wrote:
On 30 December 2013 21:02, Stephen Paul King <stephe...@provensecure.com > wrote:
Dear Bruno,

Why do you not consider an isomorphism between the Category of computer/universal-numbers and physical realities? That way we can avoid a lot of problems! I think that it is because of your insistence of the Platonic view that the material/physical realm is somehow lesser in ontological status and the assumption that a timeless totality = the appearance of change (and its measures) is illusory. I would like to be wrong in this presumption!

The problem is that assuming the material / physical realm as fundamental gets you no further than assuming that "God did it!" It's a "shut up and calculate" (or shut up and pray) ontology.

With materialism you just have a "brute fact" - well, maybe that's it, maybe there is just a brute, unexplained fact. But us ape descended life forms like to look for explanations even beneath the apparent brute facts!

But "Everything happens" is just as useless as "God did it". A theory that can explain anything fails to explain at all.

It can't explain anything. It just says that all outcomes of the laws of physics are instantiated.


But that is already a physicalist idea of everything. It assumes physical laws, and it assumes "things" satisfying physical laws. And it assumes often, like in tegmark, some identity between knowledge and brain states (which might violate the constraints of comp).

Everything and nothing does not mean anything if "thing" is not defined, and this needs to assume *some* thing(s).



This requires less information than saying that a specific outcome of the LOP is instantiated, assuming the LOP allow more than one outcome.

But I feel that you must already know this. Are you just being Devil's Advocate, or do you honestly not see the usefulness of multiverse theories?

It is not that they are useful, but we cannot escape them (with comp or weakening, or just with QM). And they do not explain, they lead to problem that we must solve.

Bruno





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